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I think it was W.C Fields that said, "never drink the water, children p**s in it and fish f**k in it". On a more serious note, i understand some fishermen die each year through infection of some kind. Not wanting to go overboard, i was wondering if it is safe (for the fish) to use a disinfectant hand wash. At the moment i wash my hands with my drinking water, but i'm a little worried if i have cuts or, as still quite new to the subtle art of fishing, i still hook my fingers at least 3 times a session! Am i overreacting, advice please.

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i still hook my fingers at least 3 times a session! Am i overreacting, advice please.

As a builder with eczema on my hands and fished most of my life, maybe i should be dead or maybe something will get me one day, but i wouldn't die worrying about it.

 

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I think it was W.C Fields that said, "never drink the water, children p**s in it and fish f**k in it". On a more serious note, i understand some fishermen die each year through infection of some kind. Not wanting to go overboard, i was wondering if it is safe (for the fish) to use a disinfectant hand wash. At the moment i wash my hands with my drinking water, but i'm a little worried if i have cuts or, as still quite new to the subtle art of fishing, i still hook my fingers at least 3 times a session! Am i overreacting, advice please.

 

Alcohol kills most bugs and doesn't leave any residue if its a plain gel without moisturisers etc. One thing people don't tend to realise is that you still need to wash your hands with soap and water. You should use the gel on clean hands. Also some bugs are more alcohol resistant. Take the hospital 'superbug' C. difficile, this is not killed by alcohol gel but is spreads rapidly because patients and visitors don't wash their hands enough with plain old soap and water!

 

All that said I don't worry to much!

 

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If you try to keep too clean, you'll end up with a severely hampered immune system (which works by building antibodies to the small doses of germs you will be exposed to).

 

Make sure your anti-tetanus booster jabs are up to date, take sensible precautions against ticks, don't drink non potable water, and visit the GP early if you suffer unusual symptoms.

 

And as for C. difficile, neither alcohol or soap and water are very effective, I think it's thought that the hand drying and friction remove the spores (although I think research is still being done here).

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Just to keep the risks of leptospirosis (Weil's Disease) in context, the mortality statistics for the UK are available online, and it typically kills one or two people a year. Government documentation quotes the average number of infections as 54 a year. Not necessarily anglers, the at-risk population includes farm workers, construction workers, sewer workers, all sorts of outdoor/watersports participants, etc. Typically, in subsistence farming communities a large proportion of people test positive for antibodies for leptospirosis without having become ill (i.e. they have been exposed to the pathogen) and I would not be surprised if that's true of anglers too.

 

Be careful, take sensible precautions, but don't blow the risk out of proportion. You've much more chance of falling in and drowning.

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blimey if your sandwiches dont have a slight tench / goundbait /maggot /mud flavour you aint fishing :rolleyes: what next an onsite shower ?

dont worry you will die of something but probably not what you expect nor have the slightest control over.

i would work out why i'm hooking myself "at least 3 times a session" (are you blind?) before worrying about how shiny your hands are

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I think it was W.C Fields that said, "never drink the water, children p**s in it and fish f**k in it". On a more serious note, i understand some fishermen die each year through infection of some kind. Not wanting to go overboard, i was wondering if it is safe (for the fish) to use a disinfectant hand wash.

 

Yes kids and fish **** in it but that doesn't stop peple eating the fish that live it!!! Think about that??

 

If you use alcohol hand wipes or gels, you won't be doing the fish any harm whatsoever.

 

At the moment i wash my hands with my drinking water, but i'm a little worried if i have cuts or, as still quite new to the subtle art of fishing, i still hook my fingers at least 3 times a session! Am i overreacting, advice please.

 

Just use alcohol hand wipes. It's safe for you and the fish. OK.

 

Leptospirosis is the only thing you really have to concern yourself about and in 27 years of fising I've never encountered it. Besides, Weil's doesn't survive in a dry environment so dry your hand properly, wipe them with alcohol and you have nothing to worry about.

 

Go fishing and stop being so paranoid. It's VERY RARE, unless there are prolific numbers of rats living near your chosen waterway.

 

 

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Taking some precautions and using alcohol wipes is a good idea especially in areas with weils disease. It's also worth keeping up with your tetanus jab.

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