MMR the rights and wrongs

[chesters1]

i'm saying money (and all research has money involved) tends to blinker the outcome ,as i said companies are not doing things out of love.

take a look at your prescription drug leaflet everything on earth that could happen is listed ,for your benefit nope so you cant frigging sue when it happens if the drugs testing period or Guinea pigs was a bit flakey.

its not just cars that have recalls remember and cigarettes are good for you.

i doubt the Ford Pinto incident is no different today and not confined to cars

Edited February 5, 2010 by chesters1

[corydoras]

I'm sorry mate but I just don't believe in conspiracy theories, none of them. I do realise that that just makes me one of the conspiracists in the eyes of the true believer.

[barry luxton]

Surprise, surprise, Ill comment too.

 

According to who exactly? Surprise, surprise, according to Dr Richard Halvorsen, the Medical Director of the Baby Jabs site and the main source of the drivel witten on the subject in the Daily Mail and Daily Express.

 

What else does the good doctor have to say on his website? He claims that MMR contains live 'attenuated' viruses. Sounds spooky, scary even. Injecting a child with live viruses doesn't sound like a good idea. What the good doctor DOESN'T tell us is this.

 

The single shot measles vaccine contains an attenuated live virus.

The single shot mumps vaccine contains an attenuated live virus.

The single shot rubella shot contains, wait forit, wait for it, an attenuated live virus.

 

Nor does he explain that the vaccines for polio, chicken-pox, yellow fever, most flu vaccines whether for seasonal flu or H5N1 both for injection and for throat spray are attenuted live virus vaccines. Why is that I wonder?

 

Whatever else the good doctor is, he is one champion cherry picker.

 

 

I do give you some do, your not a bad cherry picker yourself. Comment on this one if you will.

 

Tell me, if your first kid had the three jabs without problems, your second who has health issues that are linked with autism and had been diagnosed while this issue started, would you have made the same decision as we did? As a parent it don't take any working out, does it. Our file on our kid is about two foot thick over the years, do you think we were wrong? Simple choice for us at the time. And thank goodness we had the choice as far as i'm concerned. We took the single route, even after discussing it with our doctor in detail, he told us, it was our choice, even though he would heve been paid by the nhs for giving our kid the mmr if we had chosen

[chesters1]

I'm sorry mate but I just don't believe in conspiracy theories, none of them. I do realise that that just makes me one of the conspiracists in the eyes of the true believer.

 

probably not your no doubt honest but the ilk of t blair could make excellent candidates ,his "evidence" has killed hundreds of thousands

[corydoras]

I do give you some do, your not a bad cherry picker yourself. Comment on this one if you will.

 

Tell me, if your first kid had the three jabs without problems, your second who has health issues that are linked with autism and had been diagnosed while this issue started, would you have made the same decision as we did? As a parent it don't take any working out, does it. Our file on our kid is about two foot thick over the years, do you think we were wrong? Simple choice for us at the time. And thank goodness we had the choice as far as i'm concerned. We took the single route, even after discussing it with our doctor in detail, he told us, it was our choice, even though he would heve been paid by the nhs for giving our kid the mmr if we had chosen

Simples. My first born was born with a hole in the heart. She had the MMR vaccine. The other two were perfectly normal, they had MMR too. I understand your concern, but your concern as far as I can see is based on emotion, not reason.

 

Why in your books are the words of a few discredited quacks and charlatans with huge axes to grind worth more than the rest of medical opinion?

Edited February 5, 2010 by corydoras

[chesters1]

reason would have the single doses available as well ,fine for the rich but the poor without choice are the guinea pigs again.

what was that asbestos is good for you?

what "fact" has 665 million males the world over to be circumcised ,religion (as you agree no doubt not in the slightest backed by evidence) and i doubt all the rest have medical reasons yet they do it without any evidence its beneficial ,just fads and pseudo science ,the same nonsense that stopped mobile phone use in garages and hospitals for 20 years

Edited February 5, 2010 by chesters1

[corydoras]

reason would have the single doses available as well ,fine for the rich but the poor without choice are the guinea pigs again.

what was that asbestos is good for you?

It's got bugger all to do with money. I could have had lucre falling out of my ears and I wouldn't have wasted it on what might be 6 shots when 2 would do. Why put your kids through un-neccessary negative experiences at the doctors? What sort of loving parent does that?

 

I don't know what asbestos has to do with MMR or any other vaccine.

[chesters1]

It's got bugger all to do with money. I could have had lucre falling out of my ears and I wouldn't have wasted it on what might be 6 shots when 2 would do. Why put your kids through un-neccessary negative experiences at the doctors? What sort of loving parent does that?

 

I don't know what asbestos has to do with MMR or any other vaccine.

 

asbestos was harmless at first too well it was said it was as i said in a few years will a MP be injecting/feeding his kid on telly to disprove fears? when strange things happen ,fingers in ears LA LA LA LA LA

even when i was a kid fags were said to stimulate women (usually i puffed the wrong brand) deadly little buggers been seen what they are for years why doesnt the gov just ban them ......money

Edited February 5, 2010 by chesters1

[barry luxton]

Simples. My first born was born with a hole in the heart. She had the MMR vaccine. The other two were perfectly normal, they had MMR too. I understand your concern, but your concern as far as I can see is based on emotion, not reason.

No i don't agree with that, i gave you my reason why i went for the single jabs based on what i considered at that time to be common sence, i was also was given assurances from the nuffield centre in london who i consider to be the best pediatritions in the uk, that my course of action to suit my kid was correct and they were happy for me to do this, at that time. Remember again at that time the mmr situation was unresloved. To date there is still question marks, what about the parents who think their child has been affected. Although you aknowledge that it may well never be proven? Would you be prepared to discount them, cherry pick.

 

I hope your first born is well btw.

[corydoras]

reason would have the single doses available as well ,fine for the rich but the poor without choice are the guinea pigs again.

what was that asbestos is good for you?

what "fact" has 665 million males the world over to be circumcised ,religion (as you agree no doubt not in the slightest backed by evidence) and i doubt all the rest have medical reasons yet they do it without any evidence its beneficial ,just fads and pseudo science ,the same nonsense that stopped mobile phone use in garages and hospitals for 20 years

I'm no fan of genital mutilation of either sex chesters. I'd ban it unless required on purely clinical grounds and let all the Jews and Muslims go and take a running copulation session with themselves. I also agree with your take on mobile phones. A lot of garages still carry the no mobile phone signs, and a few hospitals have still to catch up too.