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Zander - Bury Hill


Dan G

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Hi guys,

i had an infuriating session at bury hill last week. Everytime i cast in i got little beeps, none of which turned into 'a run'. I was fishing running leger with light 10lb fox carboflex wire, size 2 super specialist hook (single) and roach head as bait. I caught one fish of about 4lb (picture attached), but wanted to ask the team whether anyone ever experienced this and, if so, should i have struck at the little beeps and dips/rises of the bobbins? Alternatively, was there anything i could have done to further minimise resistence? I was using quite standard hangers as bobbins, plus bite alarm. Any thoughts, tips or tactics would be appreciated.

cheers, dan

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I would agree with Brian Dan. I always fish for Zander using both rigs and bite indication which is as resistance free as possible.I would loose the bobbins and fish open bail arm tactics with a pike style drop arm indicater.

 

Remewmber also that Zeds feed differently to pike (this is why so mant think they are getting "dropped" runs.The Zed often stabs a bait first,drops it then picks it up.Ive never found striking at small knocks to produce.Much better to wait till they pick the stabbed bait up.

 

Small baits like heads arnt needed for Zeds and only attract attention from other species.Also I dont bother with singles allthough I do drop the size of treble down from 6 to 8 or 10 if small schoolies are expected/wanted.

 

Best tip I can give other than that though is bait wise.Lives are best and any deads I use are freshly killed lives! Frozen course fish and sea deads arent worth a ****.If you are really stuck though frozen eel section isnt to sad.

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And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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Interesting comments guys. My roach baits were coming back 'pricked' which suggests i was getting them stabbed, but the resistence was putting them off. The one i caught showed only as a single beep with a line twitch which i struck at, mainly out of frustration! The venue is not known for its eels, so i think i was suffering from a series of dropped runs. Think i will make some light weight drop offs and fish slack lines to see if i can convert more. Definitely going back soon... much as i hate the frustration, its also bizarrely like a rubix cube... you just want to solve the puzzle! one of the joys of fishing!

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Now that does sound more like genuine dropped runs.This may help you sort the bite indication-

 

http://www.fishingmagic.com/features/howto/9343.html

 

Thanks Budgie, very helpful. I have ordered some 'parts' off ebay for my lightweight drop off indicatiors and i'll report back! I've also bought some NAsh run rings and i am going to fish slack lines... I'll report back!

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I understand that contrary to perceived wisdom sea deadbaits ARE effective at Old Bury Hill so dont discount them when thinking of bait choice.

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Must admit Ive never fished the place.However I do wonder if they are "effective" there or whether its just a self full filling prophecy situation due to so many being used there? This has certainly been the case when Ive looked into other venues that seem to produce to them.But like I said its not really something I can comment on as Ive not fished there.

And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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Must admit Ive never fished the place.However I do wonder if they are "effective" there or whether its just a self full filling prophecy situation due to so many being used there? This has certainly been the case when Ive looked into other venues that seem to produce to them.But like I said its not really something I can comment on as Ive not fished there.

 

Budgie i haven`t fished it for years but think you are right as back then loads of Sea Deads were used for the Pike so would think the Zander would switch on to this food scource ,Lots of Pressure back then as well which would make them [zander] more twitchy than usuall ???.

Around the Boathouse used to be productive but as i said have not fished it for years steve.

We are not putting it back it is a lump now put that curry down and go and get the scales

have I told you abouit the cruise control on my Volvo ,,,,,,,bla bla bla Barder rod has it come yet?? and don`t even start me on Chris Lythe :bleh::icecream:

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