Catch and release.

[Guest challenge]

Hello Challenge

 

One problem with socialism is that "you can't help those that won't help them selves"

 

To socialism profit is a dirty word and one reason why Great has been taken away from Britain

Socialism broke the ship building industry, steel industry and car industry, jobs for the boys was the name of the game (still is) never mind that there were 3 men doing one mans work mustn't invest in new technology might mean less workers, use the money to employ more people instead, go on strike force the bosses to conform, mean while the rest of the world has leapt a head producing better cars cheaper steel and better ships with no strikes holding up delivery dates.

The miners dug their own graves by backing Arthur Scargill and his Russian backers , the mines were going no where being hugely unprofitable and good old Maggie was not going to let them hold the nation to ransom. Even the odd profitable mine that stayed open probably run by a capitalist for a small profit have become unprofitable and closed.

Your forma employer John Brennan invested in modern technology that made a profit that enabled you to be employed, same as big Cod if he ran his boat at a loss by employing three unwanted crew he would soon be bankrupt, same applies to Uk Ltd.

You mentioned that in theory you took a pay cut because your wage rise was less than inflation, you are working for a firm that is making a loss so you should not have had any rise at all, in fact I would also take the keys away and make you row the bloody thing.

Wurzel

So Arthur scargill was backed by the Russians then wurzel? Glad you dug up more on him that MI5 did in the four years that they had him under 24 hour surveillance. The government has been discussing the reopening of coal mines to help with the demand in this country now for the past two years. The reason that mines in this country became uneconomical was because of the lack of investment. While Thatcher invested billions of tax payers money in trying to introduce the working class to capitalism by giving away our national treasures BT, electricity, water, etc she wasted the windfall of billions of pounds that the British economy was getting from North Sea oil on her own political agenda.

So I work for a none profit making organisation, that’s correct wurzel and I am proud of it. Should we cut all the council employees salaries throughout the country then because they are not making a profit from the people they are suppose to serve?

Where do you get the idea from that everybody who doesn’t believe in capitalism believes that profit is a dirty word? Are you saying that capitalist are the only people who work?

I think out of respect for my late friend I will ignore your comment relating to him.

So what do you think that an average working man is worth then wurzel? And how would you as a capitalist work out how much you would pay him?

Little bit childish, the remark about the oars don’t you think are you going to take away the policeman’s patrol car as well wurzel because you don’t agree with new government directives on speeding?

Regards.

[big_cod]

Polotics you can argue about it forever in time modern technoligy changes things the mines became unprofitable simple because we were importing cheap coal from poland by who the same people who are now chargeing well over the top for your gas ,electricity,and not only did they get our national treasure for a pittance they also put people on the dole as well as the giveing away of BT was nothing short of a scandal when oil runs out which it will in time mines will probably reopen and bag of coal by then could be any price they are decomishing oil rigs on peace in the north sea and talking to quite a few lads who i worked out there with prodution is now fraction of what it was 10 years ago its only the price of crude keeping the rigs going they need the big over price or they would decomishion 1985 i worked on forties feild crude oil was 12 dollars a barrel bp said if it goes down to 10 dollors a barrel they would shut the feild down luckily it never did and went upto 14 dollors never to drop that low again but all your inflated water charges ,electricity ,gas, you have got to thank maggy for but that is all history now but you have to feel sorry for the young in this day and age and trying to get to get a home of there own the banks have them against the wall.

 

paul.

[Guest challenge]

Polotics you can argue about it forever in time modern technoligy changes things the mines became unprofitable simple because we were importing cheap coal from poland by who the same people who are now chargeing well over the top for your gas ,electricity,and not only did they get our national treasure for a pittance they also put people on the dole as well as the giveing away of BT was nothing short of a scandal when oil runs out which it will in time mines will probably reopen and bag of coal by then could be any price they are decomishing oil rigs on peace in the north sea and talking to quite a few lads who i worked out there with prodution is now fraction of what it was 10 years ago its only the price of crude keeping the rigs going they need the big over price or they would decomishion 1985 i worked on forties feild crude oil was 12 dollars a barrel bp said if it goes down to 10 dollors a barrel they would shut the feild down luckily it never did and went upto 14 dollors never to drop that low again but all your inflated water charges ,electricity ,gas, you have got to thank maggy for but that is all history now but you have to feel sorry for the young in this day and age and trying to get to get a home of there own the banks have them against the wall.

 

paul.

paul

When Margaret Thatcher was elected I started to try and take politics a bit more seriously

I was a young fisherman at the time and I remember even recognising then that one of her big faults was not withdrawing Britain from the EU, when she still had a chance to realistically withdraw us from something which continued to destroy agricultural and fisheries communities as it pleased.

Very quickly in the face of her Reagan-inspired "hard economics" and austerity treatment I saw every possibility of any sort of long term employment at a very early age evaporate. 3.3 million Were unemployed with no hope of a job. The economy went into recession and the dole was being withdrawn unless you could "prove" you were actively searching for work.

It ruined millions of people's lives and put millions more into unproductive boredom and hardship. It cost the country £40b in lost productivity and the only thing Thatcher did was make it worse.

Norman Lamont told us that "If it isn’t hurting it isn’t working", but the truth was it was just hurting.

Meanwhile as the City of London got richer on public share sell-offs and massive bonuses for cost-cutting, the Yuppie was born into a "me first" society. We were urged to reject a sense of community, in favour of individualism, selfishness and greed. We are still seeing the social problems created by this evil ideology.

People forget how bad it really was. The idea of celebrating such comprehensive failure is laughable.

Regards

[wurzel]

Wurzel

So Arthur scargill was backed by the Russians then wurzel? Glad you dug up more on him that MI5 did in the four years that they had him under 24 hour surveillance. The government has been discussing the reopening of coal mines to help with the demand in this country now for the past two years. The reason that mines in this country became uneconomical was because of the lack of investment. While Thatcher invested billions of tax payers money in trying to introduce the working class to capitalism by giving away our national treasures BT, electricity, water, etc she wasted the windfall of billions of pounds that the British economy was getting from North Sea oil on her own political agenda.

So I work for a none profit making organisation, that’s correct wurzel and I am proud of it. Should we cut all the council employees salaries throughout the country then because they are not making a profit from the people they are suppose to serve?

Where do you get the idea from that everybody who doesn’t believe in capitalism believes that profit is a dirty word? Are you saying that capitalist are the only people who work?

I think out of respect for my late friend I will ignore your comment relating to him.

So what do you think that an average working man is worth then wurzel? And how would you as a capitalist work out how much you would pay him?

Little bit childish, the remark about the oars don’t you think are you going to take away the policeman’s patrol car as well wurzel because you don’t agree with new government directives on speeding?

Regards.

 

Hello Challenge

 

 

MI5 could not work out how or how much Arthur Scargill creamed off ( I remember the Pararma Documentary).

 

The coal was too deep and could not compete with imported coal from countries that had only to scrape off the turf to expose mega tons of coal.

 

Councils, government, civil servants all the same to me and are paid by our taxes and yes I believe they should make a profit or at least not a loss, they have to or sooner or later the country goes bust, every thing has to be paid for this government is slow to realise there is not a bottomless pit of money and I believe this country would have been in a finical mess with out a recession.

It's not helped by the fact that average working man of this country aint got a days work in them and are lazy sick notes and not worth spit especially the younger generation, where ever possible they should be made self employed only paid on results or like us on a share basis. Civil servants like Police, Fire, Education and NHS should be covered easily by taxes the only reason it doesn't is because of the all rest including quango outfits like yours.

 

You can't seriously believe there is any comparison with your job and the police, the fish stocks especially the lobster stocks would manage them selves quite well without defra, MFA's or your help, I've always said 99% of fisheries management is nothing but a huge drain on the tax payer.

 

I don’t believe all socialism is bad or all capitalism is good , I do believe this country is a mess and getting worse with this government having a lot to answer for.

The problem I have is I don’t know if any of the others have it in them to make it any better.

[H.A.]

I started to try and take politics a bit more seriously

 

So let's examine your salvation package, OK?

 

Listening/watching?

 

 

 

The problem I have is I don’t know if any of the others have it in them to make it any better.

- Wurz

 

So what you going to do?

 

If we live within the democratic process, you do get what you deserve.

There are no prima donnas (female operatic singers?) ....

 

you work with what you have got, unless your surname is Trotsky or Guevara .....

 

and some of you are too spineless to get involved.

 

[Guest challenge]

Hello Challenge

 

 

It's not helped by the fact that average working man of this country aint got a days work in them and are lazy sick notes and not worth spit especially the younger generation, where ever possible they should be made self employed only paid on results or like us on a share basis. Civil servants like Police, Fire, Education and NHS should be covered easily by taxes the only reason it doesn't is because of the all rest including quango outfits like yours.

 

I use to think a lot along those lines wurzel when I was a commercial fisherman and I believed that the world was against me and I was in an industry that (I thought at the time) was one of the hardest jobs on the planet. Then I left the fishing industry and joined the real world. No disrespect to fishermen but boy was I in for a shock.

 

You can't seriously believe there is any comparison with your job and the police, the fish stocks especially the lobster stocks would manage them selves quite well without defra, MFA's or your help, I've always said 99% of fisheries management is nothing but a huge drain on the tax payer.

 

Would never believe that for one minute that my job was as important as a police officers job. But with out disclosing too much information on here I would love you to come and spend a few days with us wurzel. I am sure we have a stab vest that will fit you.

Regards.

Edited January 7, 2010 by challenge

[wurzel]

So let's examine your salvation package, OK?

 

Listening/watching?

 

 

 

- Wurz

 

So what you going to do?

 

 

 

Any suggestions Ha

[wurzel]

Would never believe that for one minute that my job was as important as a police officers job. But with out disclosing too much information on here I would love you to come and spend a few days with us wurzel. I am sure we have a stab vest that will fit you.

Regards.

 

Hello Challenge

 

Your remit is to be increased considerably soon I suspect you will feel the comfort of a stab vest even more so,anglers carry some wicked looking filleting knives.

[barry luxton]

Any suggestions Ha

 

I'll have a pop.

 

I think the uk need to work on replacing it's gold reserves then the mp's can go about with their strutting on the world stage. It won't be brown though.

 

education education, no that one didn't work.

 

tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime, no that one failed as well.

 

immigration, 70 mill population in our lifetime, even the labour mp's are getting edgy on that one.

 

Quangos, hopefully with a new admin they will be trimmed massively.

 

How come we are still in recession helped by the non-action of a quango called the fsa, low interest rates, yet all of our commodities gas, lecky, deisel, petrol is going up, up up in cost.

 

We have such a healthy social system that the likes of a certain mr choudhry who wants his mates to visit Wotten Basset, can sit at home collecting 25k per year for the priviledge of, He got his education in a university btw.

 

Record public sector borrowing, the uk is shortly going to loose it's imf credit status, any suggestions.

 

vote labour you know it makes sence.

[big_cod]

The country is in debt its a long way from when north sea gas was first brough to the surface the whole country was all going to get cheap gas the country was sat on fortune then the tories give it all away for litterally nothing we arent producing any more all the manufacturing is all been shipped abroad to be run with cheap labour the banks have creamed it all off for themselves unemployment is getting higher but in the real world would the tories have done any better i think not interest rates are at the lowest they have ever been people with morgages actually have more money in there pockets if the tories get in whatch the interest rates go up rapidly remember the extremy well off need the rates up to get more interest on there money labour is haveing a hard time at the the momment but to trust david cameron and the shower he has in his cabinet god help us unemployment will rocket if they get to power i wouldnt trust them as far as i could throw them you have been warned.

 

paul.

Edited January 8, 2010 by big_cod