Will the new proposed legislation stop fish theft?

[Dick Dastardly]

hello boy,My thinking was ,how can you stop a eastern European for taking fish,and allow pike anglers to take fish.Would have been so much easiler to have a ban on taking any fish..And 15 fish a day,even when I used to live bait I never took that many

Whys this turning into an anti live baiting thing for you Mick?

[barry luxton]

it's all about control the trust arranged with the e a what to take and what not to take, outside of the freshwater consultation because they missed the sell by date, yet was still allowed to negotiate with the e a, now they want to police the fresh water industry using volunteer bailiffs, as they now appear to be paranoid and state that more of these noddy bailiffs are required, is there a fee in it for the trust I wonder, they did get a fee with regards to setting up a liaison with polish fresh water guys to educate them on not eating fish.

Edited July 31, 2013 by barry luxton

[gozzer]

First ban taking any fish, then further down the line a ban on catch and release for political reasons, hey presto we've accidentally got angling completely banned.

 

That's why the right to take fish is so important.

 

Btw I can easily go through 15+ live baits in a perch session. And it is still legal to take pike to eat (subject to conditions) under the 'new' legislation, whether you're Eastern European or good old British.

 

Very true Andrew.

 

According to Adrian Taylor at the EA, I can take 15 fish up to 20cms a day, for the pot, as long as they are not on the protected list.

I don't know how much flesh I'd get, but I suppose I could save a couple of days worth to make a meal.

 

John.

[Steve Walker]

Is it OK if you smack your 15 fish on the head and use them as deadbaits?

 

If taking 15 small fish is really going to damage the fishing;

 

1. Don't take them.

2. Try to get angling banned there, because the fishery's stocks are so perilously low that it would be irresponsible to risk killing them by catching and releasing.

[MICK SMITH39]

Maybe I am on my own,maybe I am wrong,maybe I am a oddball,but I would not fish with anyone who used live fish as bait,(maybe that's why I always fish on my own)As I have said before I used to live bait, I went to great lengths to get live bait.I had tanks at home to keep roach etc,Now I would rather blank than use a live bait,Since November last year I have been out of work,i did a lot of piking this winter, Prob,60 trips around here in the lea valley,i had a 19, two 14s,two 12s and about 12 smaller pike,as you can imagine I had a shed load of blanks. IMO if I had used live bait I would have had less blanks and a lot more small pike,but who knows I might have had that first 30

[Dick Dastardly]

That's fair comment Mick.I accept that its a personal choice that some prefer not to livebait (whatever their reasons) However (as long as no harm is being done that would affect others use of the fishery then surely the live baiter should be extended the same right of personal choice?

[barry luxton]

Best fishing I look forward to every year is live baiting with both sand eel and mackerel for the bass. Even better having tried float fishing with live mackerel last year, it was enormously productive and great fun. What's the difference between fresh and saltwater, why should there be so many restrictions put in place for a hobby.

 

Years ago I used to also enjoy live baiting for pike, moved away from freshwater as it is too restrictive and getting worse.

Edited August 1, 2013 by barry luxton

[MICK SMITH39]

Each to their own I suppose,but it just don't seem right to me when some old boy is fishing on the lea for roach and hasn't had a bite all day,then a pike angler turns up with a bucket full of them,and when asked where they come from he says just up the river a bit.Some of you will say the old boy was in the wrong place.

[Phone]

MICK

 

And what would you say in response?

 

Phone

[Anderoo]

Each to their own I suppose,but it just don't seem right to me when some old boy is fishing on the lea for roach and hasn't had a bite all day,then a pike angler turns up with a bucket full of them,and when asked where they come from he says just up the river a bit.Some of you will say the old boy was in the wrong place.

 

That's not an argument for banning livebaiting everywhere though. If the bit of the Lea is controlled by a club, it's the club's decision whether to ban livebaiting on their water, while leaving it a viable option on other waters if a similar ban is not in place. I join a few clubs each season, on some waters livebaiting is allowed and on others it's not. It seems to me this level of control makes a lot more sense than a blanket national ban.

 

For what it's worth, I have never liked live baiting, but in recent seasons I have done some on waters where it is by far the best method to target big perch.