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One small point that's not been mentioned is that using a large wheel may reduce the sensitivity somewhat. To rotate the small wheel (6mm dia) one complete revolution requires 19 mm of line movement. The large wheel (20mm dia) requires 63mm to do the same (assuming no slippage in either case). Consequently, when you are trying to detect small movements of line, the sensitivity of the detection system might need to be uprated by a factor of 3 to compensate.

 

Can this be done electronically and still keep the price down or can you increase the number of magnets? Can you go from a 6mm wheel with four magnets on to a 20 mm wheel with twelve? :unsure:

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One small point that's not been mentioned is that using a large wheel may reduce the sensitivity somewhat. To rotate the small wheel (6mm dia) one complete revolution requires 19 mm of line movement. The large wheel (20mm dia) requires 63mm to do the same (assuming no slippage in either case). Consequently, when you are trying to detect small movements of line, the sensitivity of the detection system might need to be uprated by a factor of 3 to compensate.

 

Can this be done electronically and still keep the price down or can you increase the number of magnets? Can you go from a 6mm wheel with four magnets on to a 20 mm wheel with twelve? :unsure:

 

Try a optonic with a 12 vane paddle. It will keep you awake all night :D

 

On thequestion of sensitivity I think that if you are fishing at distance and especially with mono the line can stretch more than you may think before a positive indication is registered. I srarted with the 12 vane paddles at you know where and immediately replaced them with 8 vane which were nearly as bad. Unfortunately I had no 4 van with me or they woukd have gone in. I have not tried 6 vane ones as yet but will give them a try when I have made some.

Obviously it would be far more convenient if the sensitivity could be electronically controlled.

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Many of us have asked that the receivers on Phil's new wireless alarms exactly duplicate the sound on the bite indicators themselves. It's not so much the tone but how long the bleeps last.

 

Without this it's very difficult to read what's happening, unless of course you get a single toner with the line pouring out. It's especially relevant for the non-carpers amongst us, who I suspect will be Phil's main market. Several of us, including me, wouldn't buy a wireless receiver that didn't have this feature. However it's also brought up in reviews on carping sites.

 

I gather that many existing alarms, especially at the lower end of the market don't do this, although of course it probably won't say so in the blurb! Instead you get something different on the receiver to the bite indicator.

 

If you've used any wireless alarms and/or dongles would you please post which one(s) and whether the sounds on the receiver exactly match those on the alarm itself. Cheers.

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Hi

 

I have the garner atts alarm heads with the attx receiver.

 

They do not make a noise at the heads only through the receiver.

 

They do have a latching led on the heads. I have just rechecked them and as each magnet passes through you get a seperate bleep. This increases with speed. So the receiver is doing exactly what the head tells it.

 

They have different colour led,s on the receiver that match the heads so you can also recognise which alarm it was without looking at heads. This can be usefull when looking sideways as in my picture of windy fishing as I can concentrate on the right bobbin without stretching to see led on head.

 

The receiver is availeable sperately with dongles to fit any alarm but I do not know if they will be the same. I would however guess it would.

 

 

The only problem is the cost.

 

John

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If you've used any wireless alarms and/or dongles would you please post which one(s) and whether the sounds on the receiver exactly match those on the alarm itself. Cheers.

 

Steve, I use the Delkim TXi Plus alarms and the receiver matchs the alarms perfectly and replicates the tone and all single bleeps etc. But then again for the price point I would expect nothing less.

 

I would have thought it would be hard to replicate this in a cheaper alarm and still keep a competitive price. Not sure the info on the Delkims will be much use as I doubt GF are trying to compete with them.

Stephen

 

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Currently use either Optonic XLs Or GFM/GFS alarms in conjunction with a ATTX reciever and dongles. The issue is that you either get intermittent beeps or a full toner which in no way reflects what is going on at the the alarm head. The same applied when previously using a Fox TXR transmitter and receiver with the same alarms.

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I’m no a bite alarm user so can’t really suggest features that would be useful for a wireless system (or wired for that matter).

 

From what I’ve read I’d say that the GF alarm is a no nonsense great value product which lights up, makes a noise and tells you when you have a bite every single time. It’s simple, robust and reliable.

 

If you’re developing a wireless system then the receiver only has to do what the alarm tells it, don’t add features in an attempt to compete with more expensive products.

 

Keep it simple and reliable, that’s the beauty of GF alarms.

i agree, i just persoanly want a system that looks nice ( not fat and round) i like the way the fox made thier fox warriors and tmc have made thiers like it too, looks smart, and so does the new nash, but they probably have a patent on their design, but a nice slim new shape would be nice.

different coloured lighting for bites on each alarm, mot go, blue red green purple, maybe new colours would be nice, but that just tit and tat that not really bother, a good water tight sytem is a must though,

i want it to look imple on the front and not like a super gaming pc that needs a new motherboard :lol: if you catch my drift,

for price i would like to see bite alarms cheaper then fox warrior(£25) i would love to pay about £50-£75 for a full system with reciver.

for the case colour i would like to see it maybe bvlack with a stripe, maybe the stripe could match the bulb on reciver if you have different colours. nit picking again though lmao :lol:

good luck on your build(s)

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for the case colour i would like to see it maybe bvlack with a stripe, maybe the stripe could match the bulb on reciver if you have different colours.

 

 

Now even though I know its totally unnecessary (but oh so pretty!)I could have understood you saying Realtree Dean but a "Go faster stripe" ? :D

 

 

P.S Im only 50 but with the mind set of a moany eighty year old! ;)

And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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Sorry, Dean, but you and I are on a totally different wavelength. Within reason I couldn't care less what they look like - the current non-wireless model is fine. It's how well they work that's important to me. And you're not going to get a UK set for the kind of money you're talking about, let alone one where the receiver exactly mimics the sound from the bite alarm head. So what you've asked for isn't Phil's market.

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Why MUST the sound match? My alarms have different sound/tone settings, but I can rarely tell which one has bleeped without looking :) The remote helps, as if I am sitting to one side and can't see the alarm head,and want to rest my eyes, then I switch on the remote. During daytime, I tend to keep my eyes glued on the bobbins, time after time I see a little twitch before the alarm sounds, no matter what make I have used.

 

Is it really possible to get all the components actually made in the UK?

 

Den

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