Bread...is it any crack?

[Andy Macfarlane]

I hear it makes a good sandwich...hehe.I know Roach anglers use it all the time and Chubbers and Carpers are quite partial to a bit and Mr.Roskilly is an advocate for Mullet fishing but what of Trout for instance?...The villiage elders swear by it.Do any of you have any thoughts on bread as a bait and what fish will have a go?

 

[ 10 June 2002, 12:40 AM: Message edited by: Andy Macfarlane ]

[chesters1]

the local trout would kill for bread ,we used to catch so many we started putting them back as we got fed up eating them ,the other bank was leased to a fly angling club ,i have never heard such words come from the mouths of so called wealthy patrons ,in particular was the "f" word it does not sound as good with a plum in ones mouth

[ayjay]

Why do you think trout anglers use artificial flies?

 

It's cos trout are so stupid they can be caught on anything, and they do love a bit of bread.

[Keith Finn]

Andy,

Bread has to be one of the best baits available to any angler.

Just to show you, I have not long come home from a night session and using 4 rods with one on boilies, one on pellet, one on meat and the other on plain old sliced bread, guess which caught all the fish??

Yep the bread, a Chub of 5lb 4oz and a Golden Orfe of 6lb 2oz. Fair enough I had one run on the Boilie but it dropped off after a few seconds but it goes to show never to disregard teh old baits.

Keith

[Leon Roskilly]

Have a look at:

 

http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/authors/leon10.htm

 

Tight Lines - leon

[OP-JB]

I thought only poachers use bread for trout. Mine do anyway. Very difficult to catch and release under sized fish when they have swallowed the hook.

 

Op -JB, hooked squarely in the lip.

[Newt]

OP-JB - if you want to mostly prevent the deep hooking, I have had great luck with either a small circle or a kahle pattern hook.

 

Gamakatsu makes the Octopus Circle which is a micro-barb hook but only to size 8.

 

Mustad makes a kahle pattern (the call it a "wide gap") from 6/0 down to #20 in bronze. Looks like

 

 

Strange shapes for both hooks I know but they do an excellent job of lip hooking even with fish that like to swollow a hook to about the tail. They normally just refuse to stick until they reach the ridge of the lip.

[courtone]

Hi ya Andy

I think all fish have at one time or another been caught on bread, I even had a two pound pike on a piece once whilst fishing for roach.

Cheers.

[Steve Randles]

Hi Newt,

 

I'm not so sure that these circle hooks would be allowed on some fisheries here. They are not dissimilar to the "bent hook" that was all the rage a few years back for Carp fishing.

 

Can anyone shed any light on this?

[Newt]

Steve - near as I can tell the only consistant UK meaning/classification for "bent hook" is one where the point aims at or inside the eye. In that case, these are not (except for the #18 ).

 

And these are a kahle pattern rather than circle which, with the inward bend of the tip, would certainly fall within the "bent hook" category.

 

And even so, since prevention of fish damage was the idea behind the bent hook ban, the issue probably should be revisited since the circle and kahle hooks are to my mind much easier on the fish. I think lip hooks with species that otherwise tend to deep hook is a good thing regardless of the hook design that brings it about.

 

Although the mustad hooks pictured here have way too much barb for my taste and would for sure do better with it crushed down. I can't find anyone making this pattern below a #6 who don't do a serious barb.