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Who is David Mitchell and why is he speaking at the national Mullet Club AGM and how is this relevant to the AT, serious question deserving of a serious answer

David Mitchell is in charge of the Marine side of angling with the AT. He's only a young guy but, enthusiastic and eager to learn the problems.....or at least he was six months or so ago.....he may have been turned since I met him (by chance) for a chat and a pint in a local hostelry!

 

Don't know why he's speaking at the mullet club but, aren't they a bit specimen/specialist types? :hypocrite:

Eating wild caught fish is good for my health, reduces food miles and keeps me fit trying to catch them........it's my choice to do it, not yours to stop me!

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You have a chance to put your views across to the man , but instead prefer to snipe on the forum

 

Care to expand on that?

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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David Mitchell is in charge of the Marine side of angling with the AT. He's only a young guy but, enthusiastic and eager to learn the problems.....or at least he was six months or so ago.....he may have been turned since I met him (by chance) for a chat and a pint in a local hostelry!

 

Don't know why he's speaking at the mullet club but, aren't they a bit specimen/specialist types? :hypocrite:

 

 

Thanks for that I genuinley had no idea who he was or is, I thought he might be the ex tory mp for some reason, as for the NMC some would argue that they are'nt specimen/specialist types but a bit more elitist than that

 

Still if he (Mitchell) is prepared to listen to sound argument then he might be worth listening to in case any of his preconcieved ideas on RSA representaions or aims or aspirations have changed

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David Mitchell will be the guest speaker at NMC AGM is there any thing you would like me to ask him ? or if possible ask if you can attend in person Barry

 

Well yes there is actually. At least 50% of his wages are being funded by a conservation organisation yet he claims to be repping the rsa within the unelected governing body, the trust. Ask him directly how many rsa where consulted by either himself or the trust, before this letter was sent, on behalf of who, as i can guarantee none where asked or consulted. Just like the eel take ban. While your at it perhaps you can get some insight to what happened to the fishery at Christchurch, yes i am aware that it is classed as a private fishery, yet the mullet club and also some on the trust had their hand in banning the take of bass and mullet on the perceived threat of stock reduction, later proven to be a pack of busters, yet down the road at weymouth the open, free, unrestricted fishery is inundated with mullet. Load of cods that one.

 

In addition, seeing that this chap appears to be repping the anglers and in the interests of openness and transparency, can he arrange for the 11th December 09 , angling trusts sea committee meeting minutes to be put on their web site, that was when the eel take ban was discussed. Along with the minutes of the conservation and access group of the same year following the 21st of July meeting, i have that one to hand, however the following meeting minutes would be nice. Thanks in anticipation.

 

 

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Thank you for this opportunity to contribute to the review of Statutory Instrument 2008/691. Please accept the comments below from the Angling Trust. The Angling Trust is the new governing body for angling in England and replaces the National Federation of Sea Anglers that contributed to the consultation that established the Statutory Instrument.

Review

 

We consider that that SI2008/691 has been successful in its primary intention of preventing the development of a directed UK tope fishery.

 

There has been excellent compliance with the catch-and-release provisions for recreational sea angling, but then it was the case that the recreational fishery was conducted on an almost exclusively catch-and-release basis anyway. The only substantive complaint has been the inability to retain very occasional fish to claim national or regional records for the species and the perceived unfairness of this compared to the allowed commercial by-catch.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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David Mitchell is the Angling Trust's 'Environmental Campaigns Manager'. I believe that he is allowed to campaign for fish stocks, for instance, but not anglers' rights to catch them. I am also lead to believe that his knowledge is limited, so he takes advice from more established misrepresentatives within the Angling Trust. I did hear that he was chosen from a shortlist of unsuccessful applicants for a job with Natural England and that the Angling Trust receive funding from an environmental group to pay part of his salary.

 

I've never met him or spoken to him, so I've got no reason to doubt Worms when he says he's an O.K bloke. I'm just a bit concerned at the type, quality and level of 'representation' sea anglers are getting when the Angling Trust claims to be the voice of all angling and seems to have made Mr Mitchell it's chief spokesman.

DRUNK DRIVERS WRECK LIVES.

 

Don't drink and drive.

 

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You have a chance to put your views across to the man , but instead prefer to snipe on the forum

 

A chance, you say to put your views to a man (Keith Aruther) that in his own admission has just three or four RSA charter boats to his name.

Who without consulting those with much more experience, yes self included, then broadcast to the nation the idea of the introduction of a sea angling licence and a levy on angling goods to go toward an organisation that is unable to attract enough members to be self sufficient and is hell bent in imposing it’s ideal on the vast majority.

You are joking, please guys tell me he is joking right?

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I've never met him or spoken to him, so I've got no reason to doubt Worms when he says he's an O.K bloke. I'm just a bit concerned at the type, quality and level of 'representation' sea anglers are getting when the Angling Trust claims to be the voice of all angling and seems to have made Mr Mitchell it's chief spokesman.

 

I think his hands are tied in any event. Anyone who has anything to say regarding trust matters need to have their comments or writing's sanitised, approved by head office.

 

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f) The issue of press releases had caused some concern within the group. After discussion, it

was agreed that these will in future be handed by the Head Office, but the draft will be

made by the group.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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A chance, you say to put your views to a man (Keith Aruther) that in his own admission has just three or four RSA charter boats to his name.

Who without consulting those with much more experience, yes self included, then broadcast to the nation the idea of the introduction of a sea angling licence and a levy on angling goods to go toward an organisation that is unable to attract enough members to be self sufficient and is hell bent in imposing it's ideal on the vast majority.

You are joking, please guys tell me he is joking right?

 

 

I think you'll find that it is actually David Mitchell who is attending the NMC AGM, and not Keith Arthur. But apart from that I can't imagine why you were never consulted :rolleyes:

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I think you'll find that it is actually David Mitchell who is attending the NMC AGM, and not Keith Arthur. But apart from that I can't imagine why you were never consulted :rolleyes:

 

Just a bit of confusion there Davey the thread is about Keith Arthur and his 'rid the Angling Trust of RSA' outburst but some how every one is talking about Mr Mitchell you know the rep now working for the AT while having his funding from some sort of save a fish org (the Waterloo Foundation) It’s ok I’m alright now. ;)

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