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goosander.bmpNever seen one of these in my life and I don't ever want to see them again. Went down the river to have a look and to pull the rod out for a min to see what I could catch. Seen these wierd birds and did'nt think any thing of it. But been down the Taff and Ely and they are every were! Seen two swimming up stream and catch a Grayling! Killing the rivers.
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They're called natural predators....like kingfishers, herons, otters, cormorants, pike, perch, trout, anglers etc...

Eating wild caught fish is good for my health, reduces food miles and keeps me fit trying to catch them........it's my choice to do it, not yours to stop me!

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They're called natural predators....like kingfishers, herons, otters, cormorants, pike, perch, trout, anglers etc...

Hi Worms, yes i agree but as long as there are not too many,however cormorants were never seen so far inland as they come now,i live approx 70 miles from sea and now we are getting a lot,they can eat big trout and maim many more in a day. R.

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Hi Worms, yes i agree but as long as there are not too many,however cormorants were never seen so far inland as they come now,i live approx 70 miles from sea and now we are getting a lot,they can eat big trout and maim many more in a day. R.
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Hi Worms, yes i agree but as long as there are not too many,however cormorants were never seen so far inland as they come now,i live approx 70 miles from sea and now we are getting a lot,they can eat big trout and maim many more in a day. R.

there rarely is "to many" once they get near exhausting their food the expense of catching the few left causes the predator to move or die !the quarry then quickly (because there's more food for them as its had little restriction on it) repopulate the area,been like that since the dawn of time.

there's an equation out there some where "foxes and rabbits".

even "foreign" imports have little impact if there's an equivalent predator of them like where they came from ,the problem is if there isnt

Australia is a fine example but for some reason the rabbits seem to be in a different place than the dingo's i think to protect the other foreigner the sheep :D they obviously need more foxes

the biggest predator of trout is trout ;) as an angler we often over look that and see size more than quantity

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there rarely is "to many" once they get near exhausting their food the expense of catching the few left causes the predator to move or die !the quarry then quickly (because there's more food for them as its had little restriction on it) repopulate the area,been like that since the dawn of time.

there's an equation out there some where "foxes and rabbits".

even "foreign" imports have little impact if there's an equivalent predator of them like where they came from ,the problem is if there isnt

Australia is a fine example but for some reason the rabbits seem to be in a different place than the dingo's i think to protect the other foreigner the sheep :D they obviously need more foxes

the biggest predator of trout is trout ;) as an angler we often over look that and see size more than quantity

Yes i agree again to a point,which is in this case cormorants are non paying guests,fishery owners i think put extra on the ticket to pay for this which not many of us like. In the case of pike ,foxes etc usually they are a good thing as they go for the easiest prey to conserve enegy (the runts and week ones ) The only major predator cormorants have are us.

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remember if corms ,otters,herons etc were really good predators them and their food would have become extinct millions of years before we walked on two legs.

your mistaking natural predation with artificial ownership ,otters in England were brought almost to the verge of extinction because of "ownership" did the fish population jump up to record amounts when they went? No because preds are not the cause of fish decline man is ;)

the reason for more corms moving inland is probably because man is eating their grub (or more likely just harvesting it for animal food) so they have little choice

the other being the endless food routine where man puts in new food when preds eat it ,even corms don't look at gift horses in the mouth :D

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Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

Life insurance? you wont enjoy a penny!

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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remember if corms ,otters,herons etc were really good predators them and their food would have become extinct millions of years before we walked on two legs.

your mistaking natural predation with artificial ownership ,otters in England were brought almost to the verge of extinction because of "ownership" did the fish population jump up to record amounts when they went? No because preds are not the cause of fish decline man is ;)

the reason for more corms moving inland is probably because man is eating their grub (or more likely just harvesting it for animal food) so they have little choice

the other being the endless food routine where man puts in new food when preds eat it ,even corms don't look at gift horses in the mouth :D

yes you are definately right about Cormorants coming inland for food as we are emptying the seas of fish.The answer ( a cull on cormorants or us)

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