Hooklenghths

[The Diamond Geezer]

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Originally posted by zappagod:

 

Hi DG, I make mine fresh after every time out or the night before but if I were using braid I would use them a few times

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That's cool, re: the mono anyway. Re: braid hooklength, I guess you mean stuff like Kryston, not nornal mainline braid used as a hooklength?

 

DG

[Newt]

DG - Why not use a different b/s of the same braid as your mainline for a hooklength? If conditions are kind, a lighter b/s. If horrible, a heavier one?

[The Diamond Geezer]

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Originally posted by Newt:

 

DG - Why not use a different BS of the same braid as your mainline for a hooklength? If conditions are kind, a lighter BS. If horrible, a heavier one?

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Hmmmh.... I don't really know the answer to that ... obviously you need the toughest part of your tackle where it's going to take the most hammering. Presentation is another factor. Specialist hooklength braids (and some even have a coating which you can partially remove to reveal very soft supple inner braid) tend to be more suitable for hooklengths than the higher BSs of mainline braids see here

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... but you've still made a very good point, certainly from a cost aspect.

 

DG

 

[ 24. May 2004, 09:18 PM: Message edited by: The Diamond Geezer ]

[Newt]

DG - I noticed the Sufix pair you posted are both sinking versions. Do you know how it is done?

 

I've noticed that sinking lines (especially 'braids') are widely represented in the UK. Nearly unheard of for sale in the US. Folks here who need sinking line usualy opt for Fluorocarbon.

 

The problem I saw with the only bits I tried were probably related to the way the line was fabricated to make it sink. They used some Kevlar filaments in with either the Spectra (most US braids) or the Dyneema (most UK braids) (and I'll use S/D to refer to them).

 

The issues with mixing Kevlar (heavier than water so sinks) were

- Kevlar stretches more than S/D so the 10-20 % of that material in the line wasn't available to affect the b/s. Made the line less strong than otherwise.

- Kevlar is UV sensitive, unlike S/D, so exposure of the line to sunlight would weaken that part of the line and make it slightly brittle while the main filaments were unaffected.

- Kevlar is abrasive. Could be a problem with rings unless they were of a really abrasion resistant material. Rings that would tolerate super lines for years might not do well with a part-Kevlar line.

 

Granted, it's been a while since I dealt with any sinking braids and they may have worked around all these issues in that time.

[The Diamond Geezer]

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Originally posted by Newt:

 

DG - I noticed the Sufix pair you posted are both sinking versions. Do you know how it is done?

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Newt, don't forget, we're talking about hooklengths here, not main-line lure-fishing braids.

 

Inter-weaving of HPPE (Spectra or Dyneema)microfilaments with polyester fibres will give you a hybrid sinking braid.

 

Check out Western Filaments braids HERE

 

..... and surely you'll know Masons Tiger Braid

 

In addition, the Sufix Hooklengths have a soft skin coating to improve presentation, This skin can be peeled-off at the hook end, for tying anf even better presentation. Our big carp seem to have much bigger brains than our pike or your muskies and bass etc , and are not easily fooled ... they will easily detect the added weight of a heavy braid attached to a hook ... hence the hair-rig method

 

DG

 

[ 26. May 2004, 08:01 AM: Message edited by: The Diamond Geezer ]

[Newt]

Ah - oops. Did forget we were talking leader material for a minute. So most, if not all, objections to the sinking lines don't apply.

 

To tell you the truth, I'm glad our carp are naive (or stupid which works out to the same thing).

[Braderz]

zappagod:

Hi chaps just a quick question.How many times do you use the same hooklenghths? or do you make them up fresh the night before? ALL THE BEST ZAPPAGOD

Hi, I would always use the hooklengths again until you can spot any major damage then stop using them, i think its a waste unless they are really old and weakened

[The Diamond Geezer]

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Originally posted by Braderz:

 

I would always use the hooklengths again until you can spot any major damage then stop using them; I think it's a waste unless they are really old and weakened

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I call that irresponsible :mad:

 

Depends how much you care about fish welfare

 

What does it cost to use a nice new fresh strong hooklength? Peanuts!

 

DG