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I guess I am :rolleyes:

 

On a serious note I wouldn't ever fish anywhere that stocks barbel into stillwaters. I think it's quite disgusting, and I really don't know why people are allowed to do it.


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I guess I am :rolleyes:

 

On a serious note I wouldn't ever fish anywhere that stocks barbel into stillwaters. I think it's quite disgusting, and I really don't know why people are allowed to do it.

 

I agree on that, I don't really see the reason for stocking Barbel in to still waters. Fishing wise what do they offer that Carp would not.

 

Ooooopps except I do plan to fish one as it has Orfe in it.

Edited by Dales

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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I guess I am :rolleyes:

 

On a serious note I wouldn't ever fish anywhere that stocks barbel into stillwaters. I think it's quite disgusting, and I really don't know why people are allowed to do it.

I have to admit I did once fish a place with barbel in it (I didnt know until I caught one) and the poor thing looked pale and unhealthy compared to its river cousins. I felt sorry for it. I havent been back since.


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Lots of places have them as a result (as Chesters says) of them out growing tanks/garden ponds and being dumped.Some "fisheries" stock them intentionally as a novelty! Some get them due to poor stock management when they buy in their latest top up of small carp!

 

In my opinion the introduction of any fish from the ornamental trade is EXTREMELY bad news! be they intentional or accidental. This is where most of the "modern" diseases that have ravaged the natural stock of carp (and what a lot don't realise) and other indigenous species.The ornamental trade is rife with disease.

 

Not only is disease a problem,look at the problem with Crucians that years of interbreeding with Brown Gold fish has caused.The true Crucian is now a pretty rare fish!

thats down to the EA ,could you see anything else being one thing and sold as another ,even the trade description lot should have prosecuted! the EA turn a blind eye to obvious differences to whats supposed to be stocked and the licence>If they cant spot dodgy fish how can they possibly see diseases on them :rolleyes:

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I have to admit I did once fish a place with barbel in it (I didnt know until I caught one) and the poor thing looked pale and unhealthy compared to its river cousins. I felt sorry for it. I havent been back since.

 

 

I fish one venue where small barbel can play a part in a match result and it doesnt seem right at all to bag these fish in numbers , and yes they are pale .

I dont think people have earnt a right to lay claim that theve caught loads of barbel when its come out of still water stuffed with em.

Its the kind of fish to me that should remain exclusive to anglers that have earned their watercraft , it shouldnt be commercialised as that takes away its character and special fish appeal .

I havent caught a proper barbel but its still my favourite fish and its the one fish that i dream of catching one day when ive got time to river fish .

Thats how id like it to remain as a beautiful river creature that fills me with wonder like my first chidhood tench . :)

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I fish one venue where small barbel can play a part in a match result and it doesnt seem right at all to bag these fish in numbers , and yes they are pale .

I dont think people have earnt a right to lay claim that theve caught loads of barbel when its come out of still water stuffed with em.

Its the kind of fish to me that should remain exclusive to anglers that have earned their watercraft , it shouldnt be commercialised as that takes away its character and special fish appeal .

I havent caught a proper barbel but its still my favourite fish and its the one fish that i dream of catching one day when ive got time to river fish .

Thats how id like it to remain as a beautiful river creature that fills me with wonder like my first chidhood tench . :)

I know what you mean tony. I love fishing the river for barbel. It is by far my favourite angling pastime and something that I have put a lot of time and effort into since I discovered it. I will never forget my first ever river barbel. It was my first ever night session on the river with my brother. In the wild they are remarkable creatures. They are amazing looking and don't half go like stink. Pound for pound I would certainly say they outpull a crap...sorry carp. In my opinion the river is where they belong and should be left. I dont really see a need or a place for them in stillwaters. They always look so forlorn and unwell.

 

Having said that you could apply that statement to any fish as they would all be better off in the wild instead of having buckets of pellet poured over their heads daily. But that is another topic :D


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Here are three images. One of a stillwater barbel I caught and two of river barbel. I know which looks the better and healthier fish. The colour difference is staggering.

 

STILLWATER BARBEL:

 

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RIVER:

 

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RIVER:

 

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Here are three images. One of a stillwater barbel I caught and two of river barbel. I know which looks the better and healthier fish. The colour difference is staggering.

 

STILLWATER BARBEL:

 

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RIVER:

 

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RIVER:

 

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Great example and says it all :)

 

Both lovely fish but i did instantly recognise the stillwater example .

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I should really have said spot the stillwater fish instead of labelling them :D . Although I doubt very many would fail the task.


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A question

 

Is it any more wrong to stock a Barbel in a still water instead of a river, then it was or is to breed various strains of Carp for stocking?

 

We could argue that Barbel belong in moving water, but you could argue that Carp should have a full set of scales and not have been bred in to various Mirrors and Leathers.

 

Why do we not seem to get in a tiss wozz about fishing for Leathers, many even seek out the holy grail of a full nude one.

 

So is messing with the beauty of a natural Carp no worse then stocking another species in the wrong environment, or is it?

 

Why should we spare the Barbel the indignity of living it's life out in a commercial? I say stock a Barbel and free a Carp :rolleyes:

 

Give Carp back their scales and dignity.

Edited by Dales

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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