Clover Suggests Charging For Extra Quota

[Elton]

CHARLES Clover, the environmental campaigner who two years ago alerted the world to the potential disaster facing many species, has suggested that UK and European fishermen should be given extra quota - but made to pay for them.

 

Full article here:

http://www.fishupdate.com/news/fullstory.p...for_quotas.html

[flapper]

But there is plenty of quota out there (certainly in British waters) the problem is that commercial fishermen have to pay greatly inflated prices for it and therefore this encourages selective keeping of there catch to reward the purchaser with the best possible returns for there investment. I.e. discarding of smaller fish so that they only use quota on prime fish.

Flapper.

[big_cod]

One simple anser draw all the quota in out of hands of the man that isnt useing it as a fishereman no leaseing it stops now job done.

 

paul.

Edited March 8, 2011 by big_cod

[flapper]

One simple anser draw all the quota in out of hands of the man that isnt useing it as a fishereman no leaseing it stops now job done.

 

paul.

I think in the ideal world Big Cod that would be the best suggestion. But I could imagine that they would be a lot of legal arguments, because the authorities who gave out the quota in the first place have allowed it to become a commodity that has monetary value and so it would be difficult to retrieve that commodity. I think?

Flapper.

[big_cod]

I think in the ideal world Big Cod that would be the best suggestion. But I could imagine that they would be a lot of legal arguments, because the authorities who gave out the quota in the first place have allowed it to become a commodity that has monetary value and so it would be difficult to retrieve that commodity. I think?

Flapper.

 

In a simple world that would have been the anser but yes there would be legal challenges all over the place but at some stage this will happen there is no other way to clear this mess up i know a few x fisermen who lease quota who are actually retired they got it all for nothing .

 

 

paul.

[Jaffa]

Mackerel and herring were identified, boxed up, and sold years ago, all in the name of "conservation". Shout all you want but they are now someone elses property now and you have no control over what they do with it .

 

Current RSA thinking seems determined to hand over every fish stock into the same process.

 

Can't say i see the attraction.

[Leon Roskilly]

I think in the ideal world Big Cod that would be the best suggestion. But I could imagine that they would be a lot of legal arguments, because the authorities who gave out the quota in the first place have allowed it to become a commodity that has monetary value and so it would be difficult to retrieve that commodity. I think?

Flapper.

 

 

see article discussing this at:

 

http://www.arrancoast.com/index.php?option...ticle&id=96

[flapper]

see article discussing this at:

 

http://www.arrancoast.com/index.php?option...ticle&id=96

Thanks Leon, very interesting.

Flapper

[Jaffa]

see article discussing this at:

 

http://www.arrancoast.com/index.php?option...ticle&id=96

 

Interesting article Leon. Thanks

 

Thing is the conclusions boils down to

 

The result is, to put it mildly, a legal mess. This is a shame

 

I suspect more or less everyone who has paid any attention to fisheries knows full well that its a legal mess.

 

It is a shame that those RSA putting all their effort into pushing Sea Anglers into that system don't seem to spare a moment or two to think about just what they are doing.

 

No one knows what the future will bring and for certain theres plenty wrong atm. Yet to hear a convincing argument to drag Anglers into the mess though.

 

Chris

[barry luxton]

Interesting article Leon. Thanks

 

Thing is the conclusions boils down to

 

 

 

I suspect more or less everyone who has paid any attention to fisheries knows full well that its a legal mess.

 

It is a shame that those RSA putting all their effort into pushing Sea Anglers into that system don't seem to spare a moment or two to think about just what they are doing.

 

No one knows what the future will bring and for certain theres plenty wrong atm. Yet to hear a convincing argument to drag Anglers into the mess though.

 

Chris

 

Totally agree with the above 110% minimum. The failed masters of the fisheries the E U are busy pushing out rules, diktat's, call them what you like, what you will do and not do, yet their failed management of the fishires is continuing. I can't see for the life of me how long before they possibly get the cfp back on track to do what it's purpose is, management of the fishery.

 

Yet the likes of defra, the EU, the TRUST('cept the mcz's, for some reason the trust are just leaving the rsa to the wolves) and tom cobley, pushing the rsa into the heap or mire if you like, the rsa part of the fishery is abundantly successful. Why is there a need to drag the rsa down to that level. Bonkers.

 

Best thing for the rsa is to get together remain at arms length and fight off the bu@@ers, just like when the common market changed into the rulers and masters known as the E U without a mandate from the guys at the bottom of the pile. Snouts and trough's. Like to hear from anyone convincing argument why there is the need to be ruled by two administrations, absolutly bonkers. Could do with a two fingered smily, anyone got one.

 

Who's idea is it for reference zones, why are they being thrust on to all. Why ain't the TRUST jumping up and down over it, worthless banning proposels that are headed to the rsa. Certainly appears the trust are part of the i am big admin as opposed to challenging them over bonkers admin.

Edited March 12, 2011 by barry luxton