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If it is true that he tried to mislead the court, surely that would leave the guy open to legal problems himself? That would be funny.

 

How about calling it poetic justice. :)

 

Here's a snippet, first day of the trial the judge said to the prosecution do you really wish to continue with this case. Think they should have took his advise. :)

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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I've heard that the SSFC are appealing against judge House's decision :(

 

As is their right. Interesting to see what new evidence they can level against the skipper of the passenger carrying vessel. The cost out of public funds has already gone over 60k and the cfo has lost credibility, why can't he just do the right thing and go.

 

More importantly there is detail within the public domain regarding undersized bass being taken, loads, been reported to the authorities, however it's been ignored. So i'm going to look into that in detail and see if someone or an org are not doing their job with regards to what they are there for in the first place, stock protection as opposed to levelling pointless prossecutions that acheive directly the opposite.

 

QUOTE already in the public domain.

 

The main points were that it was clear from the records of the SSFC that the bylaw was only ever intended to be applied to the CF as in ‘fish for sale’

Had that not been the case then the RSA charter boat ‘Torbay Belle’ would have qualified for grandfather rights when the bylaw was drawn up, but there was evidence that an application by the then owner was turned down as it was not deemed to be necessary.

 

The CFO was rebuked for gaining permission from the committee to not only lay charges against offenders but also to then decide on taking a prosecution to court. In any other situation it would be for an independent body like the CPS to make such decisions and had that been the case, this case would probably never have reach court.

 

The judge also referred to the CFO giving the court misleading evidence over his claim of not knowing the amount of Charter Boats that were/are operating in his district when there was evidence on his own web site that stated how many there were/are.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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I've heard that the SSFC are appealing against judge House's decision :(

 

Blimey this man knows how to waste public money that’s for sure.

 

Ian Carrier should do the honourable thing and resign and let a new CFO get in and deal with the things this man has failed to address some of which were mentioned on WSF just yesterday.

 

It will be interesting to see what the new authority makes of things as they take over the reins on 1st April 2011and with a defence witness on that committee.

 

Tight lines Bob

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The introduction of new evidence is very rare, equally an appeal hearing is not a re-trail. The usual areas for consideration are errors of law, fact, or procedure.

 

I dare say any concerned ICFA rep can clarify if an appeal is to be launched by asking an urgent question to the relevant body, if there is a concern over further money being lost?

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The introduction of new evidence is very rare, equally an appeal hearing is not a re-trail. The usual areas for consideration are errors of law, fact, or procedure.

 

I dare say any concerned ICFA rep can clarify if an appeal is to be launched by asking an urgent question to the relevant body, if there is a concern over further money being lost?

 

Thanks for the advice, i'm going to write to the new org and enquire as to why this course of action is the best way foreward in protecting the stock while spending more of tax payers money.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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This argument, loads have had a dabble with this. At the time it even went to the minister and came back with the recommendation that it needs sorting locally. Now a judge has ruled and that isn't enough for the sfc, working on behalf of the local community. Something ain't right. It needs putting to bed.

 

Hopefully, Leon has something positive to add?

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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