please look at this - is it right or wrong thinking

[Barry C]

After witnessing a duckling last year with an obvious peice of red plastic corn hanging out of its beak held by the hook I say 'hooray'.

Now if that bit of corn was also attatched to a fixed lead and a twitcher had found it lying dead in the margins.

[davedave]

I completely agree with the rules, for one it is up to the owner of the fishery.

 

I have also fished countless different venues, wondered why a branch of an overhanging tree was constantly twitching and pulling, only to realise or be told that it is a tethered fish. Sometimes they go out on a boat and rescue it, others they don't. Fixed leads are dangerous things and not at all necessary when semi fixed rigs are just as good.

 

The plastic baits rule is also fair enough i would say, although i don't feel so strongly about it. A maggot, pellet or a worm would probably be gone within a day if not less, and there is a chance a fish will still pick it up but not it won't be there half as long as a plastic bait which will be there for ever, at least a good few months i would imagine. Saying that though if there are no fixed leads they shouldn't be expecting crack offs so the plastic baits shouldn't be left there.....

 

It's up to the fishery owner and if thats what he wants to do to protect his stocks fair enough, somebody once told me that a 20lb fish is worth about 10 grand, if i had fish worth that much i wouldn't allow people to use hooks when they are fishing!!!!!!!! :lol:

[teddy]

I completely agree with the rules, for one it is up to the owner of the fishery.

 

I have also fished countless different venues, wondered why a branch of an overhanging tree was constantly twitching and pulling, only to realise or be told that it is a tethered fish. Sometimes they go out on a boat and rescue it, others they don't. Fixed leads are dangerous things and not at all necessary when semi fixed rigs are just as good.

 

The plastic baits rule is also fair enough i would say, although i don't feel so strongly about it. A maggot, pellet or a worm would probably be gone within a day if not less, and there is a chance a fish will still pick it up but not it won't be there half as long as a plastic bait which will be there for ever, at least a good few months i would imagine. Saying that though if there are no fixed leads they shouldn't be expecting crack offs so the plastic baits shouldn't be left there.....

 

It's up to the fishery owner and if thats what he wants to do to protect his stocks fair enough, somebody once told me that a 20lb fish is worth about 10 grand, if i had fish worth that much i wouldn't allow people to use hooks when they are fishing!!!!!!!! :lol:

 

Instead of the plastic ban why not certify our set ups at the shop. A bailiff could check our rigs and sign the day ticket.

[RUDD]

Are all artificial baits banned on the water - if so I presume this also means lures/plugs/spinners/foam/cork/flies?

Does the club think boilies will just fall off a hair of a broken hooklength?

If your club is that concerned about fish with hooks and broken line they will also need to impose a minimum main line / hooklength rule.

[chesters1]

I am relying on the providers of excellent advice who know what they are talking about. Thanks in advance.

 

A water i fish has just introduced some new rules.

 

"No Plastic Baits, No Fixed Leads - We will be doing random checks"

 

The rationale for this is

 

"If you crack off the rig is always fishing as the plastic bait can not come off."

 

I know that if we don't like the rules we can fish elsewhere but having seen videos by the likes of Danny Fairbrass and co,

In which they use plastic baits so i am struggling with this one.

 

I usually fish the odd grain of plastic corn or a group of plastic maggots.

I also use drilled boillies with foam inserts or just a piece of yellow foam.

 

I keep thinking they are wrong - what do you think?

does it matter what "you" think ,rules is rules you follow them or go elswhere .the owners can insist you stand up by banning chairs its their water they can do as they please.There is no right or wrong the owners are always right and your wrong ,its their land and if you wan to use it you comply.

if i owned the water and spotted you dissing my decision you would be banned thats life good or bad

Edited April 1, 2011 by chesters1

[Dales]

Instead of the plastic ban why not certify our set ups at the shop. A bailiff could check our rigs and sign the day ticket.

 

Because what's to stop you fishing with a different rig? How many times do you start fishing one method or rig but by the end of the day you are fishing in a different style.

 

Plus the logistics of checking every one would be a nightmare.

[teddy]

Are all artificial baits banned on the water - if so I presume this also means lures/plugs/spinners/foam/cork/flies?

Does the club think boilies will just fall off a hair of a broken hooklength?

If your club is that concerned about fish with hooks and broken line they will also need to impose a minimum main line / hooklength rule.

 

well i have asked them the following

 

Does this include Avid Carp Corn Stops and Sight Stops

Corn Stops and highlites used in combination with real baits?

What about plastic lures/plugs/spinners/foam or cork cored boillies or flies?

Why not introduce a minimum main line / hooklength strength rule?

Instead of the plastic ban why not certify our set ups at the shop.

A bailiff could check our rigs and sign the day ticket.

 

i agree about the boillies - how long do they last on the hook?

[Dick Dastardly]

Saying that though if there are no fixed leads they shouldn't be expecting crack offs so the plastic baits shouldn't be left there.....

 

Whether the lead is running,semi fixed or fixed wont be the cause of crack offs. Also a lot of semi fixed "safe rigs" Ive seen are in actual practice anything but.

[teddy]

Whether the lead is running,semi fixed or fixed wont be the cause of crack offs. Also a lot of semi fixed "safe rigs" Ive seen are in actual practice anything but.

 

 

exactly Budgie. any rig wrongly tied or attached could be lethal if cracked off.

every angler has to visit the baliff's hut to buy a day ticket, why not just have a quick check of gear then and the baliff sign the day ticket to certify that the set up was ok at that point. the water says they are available to give advice, surely this is there chance.

 

i am not convinced all is about fish care, i think there is an element of selling bait as well.

[teddy]

Are all artificial baits banned on the water - if so I presume this also means lures/plugs/spinners/foam/cork/flies?

Does the club think boilies will just fall off a hair of a broken hooklength?

If your club is that concerned about fish with hooks and broken line they will also need to impose a minimum main line / hooklength rule.

 

Having asked the question about lures/plugs/spinners/foam/cork/flies they have so far not replied - i guess they may not.

 

It’s a good job i am 6 foot tall - blonde hair and blue eyes and like to burn books. What next?

 

I will let you know if they reply