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It might have a bit of F1, Gibel, Goldfish somewhere in it's lineage, but I would still have called it a Crucian. I doubt there are many 100% pure fish around anymore even at the places that claim they have them.

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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if the fish is as large as the line spool suggests then it's a weird shape for a roach, our local ones, like perch tend to have arching spines behind the head once they get over a pound or so, if that makes sense, like....the line between the head and tail is kind of smooth and un-interupted on yours

 

without reading all the other threads it's also kind of silver orange, rather than silver blue. i'm certain i've had two roach/bream hybrids in the past few months

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I've counted 30-31 scales on the lateral line, which would suggest a crucian/goldfish hybrid. Favouring the crucian parentage in looks.

 

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Top one has mainly crucian characteristics - bottom one is a common surely?

 

 

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Top one, I thought it looked a little goldfishey in the flesh

 

I thought common initially with the bottom one but it looks quite unlike the other commons in the water. It has a very high back with a lovely buttery yellow colour. It also had a unusual mouth with a single pair of small barbels. So I thought crucian hybrid. This lake supposedly did a 4lb crucian, which was weighed by the bailiff last week.... :huh:

 

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Top one, I thought it looked a little goldfishey in the flesh

 

I thought common initially with the bottom one but it looks quite unlike the other commons in the water. It has a very high back with a lovely buttery yellow colour. It also had a unusual mouth with a single pair of small barbels. So I thought crucian hybrid. This lake supposedly did a 4lb crucian, which was weighed by the bailiff last week.... :huh:

 

Rich

 

Anymore ideas?

 

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Initially I'd say top= crucian but perhaps a dash of goldfish or maybe a fertile F1 from the thickness of the caudal peduncle. Bottom= common but also perhaps a bit of goldfish from the slight arched back. In all honesty, I'd go with crucian and a common, its too close to tell, maybe they have 1/4 goldfish but doesn't look much more. Lovely looking fish though, whatever the lineage.

 

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I'm not sure the top one is a true Crucian, I'd err on the side of Brown Goldfish.

 

Second one looks like a Common but is there any chance it's an F1 as it does look like it's got a bit of Crucian in it?

 

Going back 20 years or so I caught a fish I'm certain was a Crucian/Tench hybrid, that was one strange looking thing. Wish I'd had a camera with me!

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