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gonna try spodding a big bed of bait down and fish over the top with a open end feeder.

 

my mix im thinking so far is:

 

corn

4-8mm pellet (mix)

mini bollies (chopped and whole)

fishmeal groundbait or maybe brown crumb or both?

 

also tuna????? i had a good day just fishing the open end with groundbait with some tuna in it for a change and seemed to work well so might add some again.

 

maggot/caster if i can get to a tackle shop before i go.

 

anything else anyone can be add?

 

will be fishing braid mainline with free running open end feeder with say 8-10inch hooklenght with

bollie/pellet on the hair/band

 

 

also any advice on groundbait to use in the open end? thinking either fishmeal like swim stim ,brown crumb or bait tech omen

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gonna try spodding a big bed of bait down and fish over the top with a open end feeder.

 

my mix im thinking so far is:

 

corn

4-8mm pellet (mix)

mini bollies (chopped and whole)

fishmeal groundbait or maybe brown crumb or both?

 

also tuna????? i had a good day just fishing the open end with groundbait with some tuna in it for a change and seemed to work well so might add some again.

 

maggot/caster if i can get to a tackle shop before i go.

 

anything else anyone can be add?

 

will be fishing braid mainline with free running open end feeder with say 8-10inch hooklenght with

bollie/pellet on the hair/band

 

 

also any advice on groundbait to use in the open end? thinking either fishmeal like swim stim ,brown crumb or bait tech omen

Personally i would go easy on the 8mm pellets and whole boilies as big baits are just fish fillers, not fish holders. Chopped up boilies can be great (chop them small)and small 2mm micro pellets can work well, but i find them better if they have been soacked with hot sweet flavored water first.

 

There are loads of other baits for bream and some good cheap ones for bulk feeding. Things like bread, corn, maze, wheat, barley and vitalin come to mind.

 

Much as i would recommend keeping feed small to get bream feeding and hold them well, you need to be mind full of drift if you are going to spod them out. Spoding light fluffy ground bait would been a none starter for me as i like to use baits that sink fast when spodding and end up where i want them.

 

Good as fish meal groundbait can be, it can be sticky and hard work if your going to use it in an open ended feeder mix.


 

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Totally agree with what Brian has said here.


And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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If you want to get groundbait out at distance and with accuracy, make balls and spod/spomb them out. Get the mix right (test in the margins) so that it has broken up by the time it gets to the depth you're fishing. This gives you that nice even coating, and makes sure it all gets to the bottom.


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there's a big head of bream in quite a small sized water so im not to worried about overfeeding

there's also afew 15lb+carp that may move in on the feed and if they do i want somthing in it to keep them there for awhile so my mix at the moment is:

 

mixed 2-4mm pellet

8+10mm pellet to hold some of the bigger fish

corn

groundbait

tuna

and mini bollies 6mm chopped and whole

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If you want to get groundbait out at distance and with accuracy, make balls and spod/spomb them out. Get the mix right (test in the margins) so that it has broken up by the time it gets to the depth you're fishing. This gives you that nice even coating, and makes sure it all gets to the bottom.

Feeding groundbait from the surface is messy and most probably the main reason you report so many line bites (even on a LSD water) and especially so when you've fished into a good wind.

 

I'm not sure what you've been testing for in the margins, but you either have it sinking to the bottom in a big lump or breaking up on the way down. If you have it breaking up on the way down and there is tow......... Even if you had it in a blockend feeder, i would recommend you tape the holes up if there was any tow or any depth to your swim.

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This is why I always hesitate before replying to a bream topic :rolleyes:

 

Yes Lutra, you are absolutely right. When will I learn...


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This is why I always hesitate before replying to a bream topic :rolleyes:

 

Yes Lutra, you are absolutely right. When will I learn...

To be honest Andreoo, I don't know why you persist in replying to bream fishing topic's. By your own admission you have little or no experience of bream fishing and what little bit you have done doesn't seem to have been sufficient in results to have taught you much.

 

IMHO you will probably never be a good bream angler Andreoo. At least not if you persist in only fishing waters like Wingham with a dumbed down bait and wait approach. If we all learnt to fish like that we would all be poor anglers and we would died of old age before we learnt anything.

 

Good bream anglers don't get good only catching one fish a year or from reading second, third, fourth, ......... hand info from other speciheads.


 

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To be honest Andreoo, I don't know why you persist in replying to bream fishing topic's. By your own admission you have little or no experience of bream fishing and what little bit you have done doesn't seem to have been sufficient in results to have taught you much.

 

Well I find Anderoo's stuff on Bream fishing very interesting and I think most Bream anglers would be very pleased to have caught some of the Bream he has.


Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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To be honest Andreoo, I don't know why you persist in replying to bream fishing topic's. By your own admission you have little or no experience of bream fishing and what little bit you have done doesn't seem to have been sufficient in results to have taught you much.

 

IMHO you will probably never be a good bream angler Andreoo. At least not if you persist in only fishing waters like Wingham with a dumbed down bait and wait approach. If we all learnt to fish like that we would all be poor anglers and we would died of old age before we learnt anything.

 

Good bream anglers don't get good only catching one fish a year or from reading second, third, fourth, ......... hand info from other speciheads.

 

True, I'm just wary of becoming too good at bream fishing as related symptoms can include arrogance, anger, vindictiveness, cloudy reasoning, bad memory, even tantrums.

 

Now, where's my 4th-hand reading material...

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And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music

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