Bored with Coarse Fishing

[Dales]

Dales,

 

Nothing more boring than zander (walleye) fishing. The "UP" side with zander is they are top drawer eating fish. And really, the only pike worthwhile is the Musky and catching one of those babies is dangerous. They too are boring in the sense they are called the fish of 10,000 casts.

 

Phone

 

What rubbish, how dare you disparage our British fish. You can keep your fake Pike look-a-like Nut Musk or Merkin or what ever it is you like to call them they are no patch on the one and only English Pike.

 

And don't even start comparing your Walleye to the great British Zander

 

PS. The English Pike are better then the ones you find in other parts of the union.

Edited August 22, 2011 by Dales

[Dales]

Dales,

 

Seriously, you fail to recognize there are TWO styles of carp fishing, First, you are indoctrinated with Euro/UK carp fishing. Sam Walton would role over in his grave should he have a look at carp fishing in Europe and the UK. Second, there is the "natural" way.

 

You are simply "conditioned" to something gastly and are calling it "carp fishing". Too bad really.

 

There are endless styles of Carp fishing and my point is I do none of them and so only catch the odd Carp by accident and not design. So it's not how that is the question but more should I do more carp fishing? If I get back in to it I know it will soon take over whether that is camping or roving around with a rod and with very little tackle all seems good. Carp fishing can be great fun even though many like to knock it and once you get in the habit of catching them not much else compares to it.

 

 

Still not far enough? Ice cubes with holes in the center threaded onto the main line work great for additional casting distance.

 

I thought I had invented that

[SpecimenSean]

Dales, im a carper. My main stay of fishing is catching carp. I dont fish big commercials much (unless ive had a run of bad luck and need some catching to boost confidence or alternatively to test new tecnhiques etc). Being a carper doesnt mean sleeping all day waiting for a beep on a over stocked commercial. This is just how some choose to fish and so be it, good on em, i hope they have fun!

 

I tend to target estate lakes, resers, mill pools etc. I prefer the more natural surroundings and they are generally quieter. Lower stocked waters also, in my opinion, offer much more of a reward. You will get just as giddy catching a decent double from a lower stocked water than a good 20 from a commercial. Carping has over the years become relatively easy to "catch" but so has many other disciplines. Its as easy to setup a float rig than a bolt rig and just as easy to catch on either, so anyone who says there is a lack of skill required in that department hasnt done much carping. My carping involves a lot of planning and patience, a lot of fine tuning and adjusting and it pays off. Anyone who thinks that carping is just turn up, chuck in, catch is more than welcome to tag along with me sometime. I think you will be amazed at how much actually goes in to catching a fish or two!

 

HOWEVER, again, im not saying all carping is like this, you do get people who want to catch easy (and so be it) and unfortunatley you do also get the people that treat it as a mini social, get bladdered and get noisy. Another reason why i avoid commercials espeically ones just outside of urban areas.

 

AND, it does highten my appreciation of the river etc when i take a break and get down there or get on the local mill pool and quiver tip for tench. After all, variety is the spice of life!

[Dales]

Dales, im a carper. My main stay of fishing is catching carp. I dont fish big commercials much (unless ive had a run of bad luck and need some catching to boost confidence or alternatively to test new tecnhiques etc). Being a carper doesnt mean sleeping all day waiting for a beep on a over stocked commercial. This is just how some choose to fish and so be it, good on em, i hope they have fun!

 

Yeah I think people tend to forget that you can Carp fish some very hard waters and a whole raft of different venues and it's not all about commercial match pools or single species lakes. It's odd they never seem to focus on the fact that most Bream, Tench and Roach caught in this country are from the same commercial carp pools they like to knock. Oddly the growth in commercial pools seems to be along the non carp type but same format stuffed with fish.

[Rusty]

How about trying your hand at some moving water? Maybe with barbel in mind. I'm not talking sitting behind, rod pods, buzzers and bolt rigs, but trotting a nice avon through a fast, streamer weed filled swim.

 

John.

 

That’s the answer Dales get yerself to moving water and get stuck in. I don’t mean lobbing the float in and watching it sail off downstream I mean controlling it using the breeze, current, eddies, reel and all the other stuff which makes the float deviate. Wading adds another dimension.

 

It is a hugely satisfying way to coarse fish and one of the few methods I can think of where you’re doing something all of the time. I’d go as far as to say that I fish to enjoy the method rather than the catch, why else would I put up with catching tiddlers for so long?

[Phone]

Dales,

 

For those who "enjoy" fishing and are looking for a bit of "spice" we have "gambling venues". You spot up a couple hundred bucks along with 25 - 30 other fishermen. Then test your skills, baits, techniques, etc. against the crowd. A good angler can make $800 a day. Problem is - 5% of the anglers take 80% of the money - consistantly. There is such a thing as a "good carp angler". For some reason the amateurs show up - day after day. It is less than noble - blood and guts.

The difference between zander and walleye - you eat walleye. We have lots of "pike" and I'm not sure which scientific fish we DO have? IMO it would be "best" if they were not disturbed by angling. They eat small carp, leave them be!

 

Steve,

 

Anyone who can "chuck fluff" can smoke tobacco from a bowl with a stem. Try as I may, there was no time in my life I could master such a fiddly sport. It was, for me, frustrating beyond your imagination.

 

Phone

fun thread

[Dales]

That’s the answer Dales get yerself to moving water and get stuck in. I don’t mean lobbing the float in and watching it sail off downstream I mean controlling it using the breeze, current, eddies, reel and all the other stuff which makes the float deviate. Wading adds another dimension.

 

It is a hugely satisfying way to coarse fish and one of the few methods I can think of where you’re doing something all of the time. I’d go as far as to say that I fish to enjoy the method rather than the catch, why else would I put up with catching tiddlers for so long?

 

A return to some river fishing does seem a very good way to add some interest to my fishing, oddly a few trips I have had recently to the river Lea have been very enjoyable more for the method as not very productive only catching small Perch, Ruff, Chublets and Bleak.

[Dales]

fun thread

 

I do like a rambling and even occasionaly ranting thread and some times even good stuff can come out of them. Getting back to some river fishing like a few have suggested does sound like a way to get some interest back in to my fishing.

 

Plus if I believed everything I read on Anglers Net, British rivers are teaming with Carp just waiting to be caught

[Alan Roe]

Or even take up fly fishing there is a whole new world of angling using that method for all species in rivers and still waters.

At the moment I am gearing up for backend Salmon fishing great fun on the fly!

[Dales]

Or even take up fly fishing there is a whole new world of angling using that method for all species in rivers and still waters.

At the moment I am gearing up for backend Salmon fishing great fun on the fly!

 

Not sure about fluff chucking but trying for Salmon on a worm or spinner sounds fun.