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Should we have a ban on Summer Pike fishing?

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Ban on Summer Piking  

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  1. 1. Should Summer Piking be banned

    • Yes - Ban For Dead Baiting
      7
    • Yes - Ban for Live Baiting Only
      4
    • Yes - Ban for Lure Fishing
      2
    • No
      40

  2. 2. Who should make decisions on any Pike Season

    • Venue Owner or Club etc
      28
    • Government Agency EA etc
      8
    • Angling Trust
      1
    • PAC
      0
    • Individual Angler
      20

  3. 3. Does anyone Pike fish in the Summer?

    • Yes with Dead baits
      14
    • Yes with Lures
      34
    • Yes with Live baits
      11
    • No
      10
    • Used to but no longer
      1
    • Would like to but dont as feel pressured its wrong
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Rob Ward Member

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I've caught loads of pike in the height of summer over the years and never had any deaths or any remotely looking like dying. Blimey if their treated correctly and put back asap there should be no problem no matter how hard they fight or how warm it is. If one should look a bit iffy just let it revive before letting it float off. Rather than mauling them to revive them they're better propped in an upright position and left alone to slowly recover.

 

I can vouch for that, I had one last season in June from Wingham - 18lb plus with a liking for fake corn, I ended up taking three other Anglers rigs out of it as well.

 

It lead me a merry dance on a 1 1/4lb Avon and 8lb line in spite of me playing it as hard as I could.

 

I really thought it wasn't going to go back after it just lay on the surface so I propped it up between two bank sticks, it stayed there for an age but eventually swam off of its own accord.

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Peter Waller Member

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I've lure fished for summer pike for over fifty years. It wasn't until the appalling winter style of poor bite detection dead-bait only pikers turned their attention to summer pike that I have seen a truly tragic decline in pike stocks on the Broads.

Peter

https://www.charliecarp.com.au/

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corydoras Member

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Phone, if we are talking in celsius then I cant think of any water that would get that warm but if Fahrenheit yes then I then again I never take water temperature readings and so some one might be able to correct me. In relative terms the UK may be small, but from one end of the country to the other water temperatures can vary considerably and as Emma pointed out she could be fishing a deep cold glacial lake while I could be fishing a warm pond for Rudd down in the south.
If Phone was talking Celcius then 50-55 degrees is getting on for scalding hot :o

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If Phone was talking Celcius then 50-55 degrees is getting on for scalding hot :o

 

So nicely poached then :D

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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corydoras Member

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So nicely poached then :D
De-scaled at least ;)

The problem isn't what people don't know, it's what they know that just ain't so.
Vaut mieux ne rien dire et passer pour un con que de parler et prouver que t'en est un!
Mi, ch’fais toudis à m’mote

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davedave Member

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Interesting topic. Some on here obviously feel very strongly on the subject.

 

I've just got into piking and it is a bit disheartening to think that it should maybe be paused for the summer periods. But if it really does harm the fish I wouldn't fish for them.

 

But then on small rivers the oxygen levels should be higher than stillwaters surely?

 

But then as a beginner to piking it may be best to fish for a species when they are at their peak and not at their most critical.

 

 

 

Hmm don't know what i'll do when it gets to summer. Any suggestions?

 

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As famous fisherman John Gierach once said "I used to like fishing because I thought it had some larger significance. Now I like fishing because it's the one thing I can think of that probably doesn't."

 

 

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corydoras Member

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Hmm don't know what i'll do when it gets to summer. Any suggestions?
Get a girlfriend. Hit the beach.

The problem isn't what people don't know, it's what they know that just ain't so.
Vaut mieux ne rien dire et passer pour un con que de parler et prouver que t'en est un!
Mi, ch’fais toudis à m’mote

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Renrag39 Member

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Get your lures out Dave :thumbs:

 

Pike are very active in summer. They race around burning lots of energy, chasing active prey in temperatures that raise their metabolism. Its a vicious circle for them.

They'll wolf down a deadbait so damn quick that even the best, most sensitive bite detection may not be fast enough, resulting in deephooking.

Not being funny but in summer, think of them as oversized 3" Perch and you'll get my drift ;)

 

Mr Waller, I know exactly what you mean.

 

Renrag

This Years' Targets:- As many species by lure as possible. Preferably via Kayak. 15lb+ Pike on Lure...

Species Caught 2012- Pike, Perch.

Kayak Launches- Fresh-8 Salt- 0

Kayak Captures- 14 Pike, 1 Perch.

 

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