Specialist Angling Unity

[Guest Graham E]

Hey Mike, and I thought the "S" stood for Specimen.(as in big for the species fish, the ones the little still undamaged ones Could grow into) Didn't realise the "all thing to all anglers" stretched so far in the "S"

Saying that I have used a keepnet twice in 3 years)

 

Any group that did not have a definate view on the 4 rod issue on rivers would not get my support I am afraid. (so what, you might add)

 

A strong group is one that consists of members with deeply held committed views working together, not one only judged by high fluctuating numbers and disparate beliefs, worth bearing in mind.

 

One last point. My views are not about old or new styles, they are about fish welfare.

 

[This message has been edited by Graham E (edited 13 March 2001).]

[Guest Alan Pearce]

The strength of an umbrella group is being of open mind with a view of the big picture, whilst the strength of the single species group is to represent their species.

 

The strength of the SAA will be to protect and enhance the overall requirements, needs and expectations of the specialist angler. As there is an obviouse difference between the pike, barbel, roach and carp angler, to name just a few, the only way to plan for the future is for everyone to sit round the same table and discuss the issues.

 

Anyone who is only concerned with their own personal thoughts, feelings and agendas, and not care about their fellow anglers, should stay away and enjoy their own selfish persuit. Those that can hold their heads up high, be opened minded and care about the sport as a whole, should do their very best to play a part, whilst respecting the views and needs of other anglers.

 

Oh how I sometimes wish that I was only interested in one style of fishing and just one species of fish. Oh how easy it must be, to be narrow minded and thoughtless.

 

I wish life could be so easy.

 

Alan.

[Guest Steve Burke]

We seem to be going backwards here!

 

All of us are agreed that unity in angling is something well worth striving for. At least I hope we are, as sometimes reading this Forum I have my doubts!

 

Let's assume this is the case. We therefore have an objective. Rather than work forward from what we've got now, why not work backwards from what we're trying to achieve? This is a well known technique that some of you will know is called "management by objective". It has a proven record of success.

 

Angling has made great strides recently, even if a minority want to plough their own furrow. History shows that minority interests are soon left behind and their leaders lose their power and influence. It also shows that the best way of these people getting their voices heard is to join in and seek to influence others from within.

 

I believe that such issues that have been brought up recently should be tackled in this way or alternatively at local level. All concerned can then devote their time and energy to the main objective.

 

Make no mistake about it, the wheels have been set in motion and we're now going to get unity. For a start the government will listen to and pump money only into a united sport - and we badly need both a voice and money. Many have already recognised this, and we're so far down the road that it's now a case of *when* unity will be acheived not *if*.

 

I'd urge all those involved in angling politics not to lose sight of the objective and to work on behalf of the common good. Our opponents aren't those within the sport but those outside it. They would love us to be divided!

 

 

 

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[Guest lyn]

Originally posted by Alan Pearce:

Oh how I sometimes wish that I was only interested in one style of fishing and just one species of fish. Oh how easy it must be, to be narrow minded and thoughtless.

 

I wish life could be so easy.

 

Alan.

 

I love my barbel fishing but fish for still waters with the boys for whatever comes along.

 

You have just called every carp,pike, cat angler etc narrow minded & thoughtless! Well that's a good start to angling unity!

 

lyn

[Guest Graham E]

Just to clarify what Alan has stated.

"Anglers interested in only one species of fish are narrow minded and thoughless"

 

Well you Carp anglers, barbellers, Pikers etc. please bear that view in mind when any selection process takes place.

 

Just glad that I still enjoy all river species and the occasional carp, tench etc.

 

Management by Objectives.

1/ Get all the interested parties together to identify the key objectives needed to achieve the desired outcomes.

 

Sorry, after working for 8 years with the HAY KRA system, the first part is pretty important.

[Guest Steve Burke]

I'm sorry if my last post seems pompous but I used to make a living as a management consultant and this is the kind of thing I had to write!

 

However, as you've probably guessed I feel very strongly about the issue. Nevertheless, I have absolutely no desire for political office and just hope that those that do serve us ordinary anglers well.

 

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Wingham Fisheries

http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/fisheries/wingham.htm

[Guest RUDD]

Can we have some FISHING threads now that you have all put your hand bags away.

 

RUDD

[Guest Graham E]

Beat me to it Lyn, sharp tonight aren't we!

[Guest Steve Burke]

Originally posted by Graham E:

Management by Objectives.

1/ Get all the interested parties together to identify the key objectives needed to achieve the desired outcomes.

 

Sorry, after working for 8 years with the HAY KRA system, the first part is pretty important.

 

 

I couldn't agree more! However, we seem to have become sidetracked by secondary issues. These may be very important to some of those concerned, but any organisation that loses sight of the main objective soon starts failing! I had several come to me as clients. Those involved were so close to the action and so tied up by side issues that they couldn't see the wood for the trees. Sound familiar?

 

 

 

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Wingham Fisheries

http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/fisheries/wingham.htm

[Guest trent.barbeler]

Alan old chum,

Oops,have you been on the bottle or partaking of some whacky baccy. Narrow minded! Thoughtless! Common now chap. I only fish for one species and so do many more of your palls in SACG. Please re-phrase.