Of all the different types of coarse angling just who is the most skilful?

[Guest Scott]

Oh my god, can opened worms everywhere!

 

The few (less than 1%)carp anglers right at the top of the sport would probably be just as successfull if they tried fishing for another species.(i.e. Kevin ________s)

As would Bob Nudd if he went Pike fishing or Alan Yates if he took up carp fishing.

All the realy good anglers would do well if they tried their hand at another species.

 

The original question asked, which was the most skillfull and I still stick by my original answer that the all rounder is.

 

John Wilson could be put anywhere in the world and catch Fish as could a few others.

 

Take the average carp angler sea fishing and he would spend the first few hours trying to hair rig a Ragworm or criticaly balance it.

 

As for never been carp fishing, been there, done it, moved on.

 

Scott

[Guest Elton]

Originally posted by Scott:

"More rig variations than you could learn in a lifetime" in sea fishing.

 

Come on Elton this is a wind up!

 

I take it that your in-depth knowledge of sea fishing is matched only by your in-depth knowledge of session carp fishing?

 

Sea fishermen use a plethora of rigs, dependent upon the venue, target species, conditions, etc. They were hair-rigging baits and tying complex rigs way before the modern trend of complex coarse rigs.

 

Elton

 

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[Guest Elton]

Originally posted by Scott:

Take the average carp angler sea fishing and he would spend the first few hours trying to hair rig a Ragworm or criticaly balance it.

 

This is a prime example of why angling is such an easy target for others. We'll never have a united front as long as that kind of narrow-minded attitude is around. What on earth was the point of that statement? It was complete unfounded rubbish!

 

Hey, I bet the fluff-flingers would try hauling 6oz leads back and forth in an attempt to mimmick a fly, eh?

 

Oh, and what about the barbel lot? They'd probably stick the hook through the worm, shove a bit of grass through and throw it out freeline.

 

And the pike anglers? They'd probably stick six hooks in it and fling it out anywhere.

 

Etc, etc.....

 

Yaaaaaawwwwwwwwwn,

 

Elton

 

 

 

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[Guest Simon Newbould]

Originally posted by Scott:

Oh my god, can opened worms everywhere!

 

The few (less than 1%)carp anglers right at the top of the sport would probably be just as successfull if they tried fishing for another species.(i.e. Kevin ________s)

 

 

I don't think I'd want to fish for another species like Kevin ________s (whatever that is) but each to his own

As would Bob Nudd if he went Pike fishing or Alan Yates if he took up carp fishing.

All the realy good anglers would do well if they tried their hand at another species.

 

The original question asked, which was the most skillfull and I still stick by my original answer that the all rounder is.

 

John Wilson could be put anywhere in the world and catch Fish as could a few others.

 

Blimey Scott... Just 'cos John Wilson is a decent angler doesn't doen't make ALL all rounders as skilfull does it?

 

Take the average carp angler sea fishing and he would spend the first few hours trying to hair rig a Ragworm or criticaly balance it.

 

[/b] Yep, and take the average fly fisherman and he'd be equally as clueless! Doesn't mean that they're any less skilfull - it means they haven't acquired that skill yet!

 

Why is it that all and sundry wanna have a go at the carp angler? I'm talking about "proper" carp anglers here, not these wombats that sit round a whole in the ground that was dug 2 years before and is now full of forties!!!

 

 

As for never been carp fishing, been there, done it, moved on.

 

I went the other direction - before anyone starts - I started as float fishing for minnows and dace when I was 5, tried loads of other disciplines and finally settled into carp fishing.....

 

Scott

 

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[Guest Simon Newbould]

Hey Elton -

 

That's exactly what I was trying to say!!!

 

Simon

[Guest Steve Burke]

Originally posted by Graham E:

Got to pick Steve up on one point.(cos I'm like that!)

Given a chance of selecting a swim to catch or being given one, I know what I would have easier success from!

 

Agreed, but the point I was trying to make was that the specialist has to learn more about the skill of location than a matchman.

 

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[Guest Elton]

Originally posted by Steve Burke:

Agreed, but the point I was trying to make was that the specialist has to learn more about the skill of location than a matchman.

 

 

I think that this one is a bit like "What way does a door open?" - the skills are both great, but from different perspectives. The specimen angler selects his swim with skill and the match angler selects a way of extracting fish from a given swim with skill. Hmm...tricky one.

 

Now, a match angler who goes specimen hunting for fun.....that's got all the makings of a top angler

 

Elton

 

 

 

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[Guest Steve Burke]

Originally posted by Scott:

The few (less than 1%)carp anglers right at the top of the sport would probably be just as successfull if they tried fishing for another species.(i.e. Kevin ________s)

As would Bob Nudd if he went Pike fishing or Alan Yates if he took up carp fishing.The original question asked, which was the most skillfull and I still stick by my original answer that the all rounder is.

 

Alan Yates won one of the matches at Wingham by a large margin. Amongst the field was a certain R.Nudd Esq.......

 

Mind you, I'd back Bob to beat Alan 9 times out of 10 on freshwater, and the other way round on the beach.

 

 

 

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[Guest Steve Burke]

Originally posted by Elton:

The specimen angler selects his swim with skill and the match angler selects a way of extracting fish from a given swim with skill

 

A nice way of putting it Elton.

 

The matchman is also often better at getting the fish to feed and stay feeding. In my experience one of the best things that a specialist could learn from a matchman is the art of feeding.

 

 

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[Guest Scott]

My "in-depth" view of sea angling is based on the following facts:

 

I caught my 1st sea fish (4lb) Bass in 1976

since then have sea fished on a regular basis

I have won local club matches (beach,boat and esturey).

I first boat fished in 1982 catching a 23lb Tope.

I have owned my own boat(s) for the last 6 years that gets used for sea fishing.

 

I spend last weekend pumping black lug

and have caught 18 different Species and another 3 in America of sea fish.

 

not a lot but enough to enable me to comment.

 

As for carp I spend 3 seasons over 150 24hr+ sessions biggest fish 24lb 11oz all in Cumbria (the home of 1 or perhaps 2 30lbers)

 

Now when i'm not sea fishing I spend my time after Pike.

 

Scott