Irony Impaired?

[ColinW]

Is David Cameron suffering from some sort of Irony Impairment Disorder? I have to ask having read about his idea that it should be made easier to sack workers who are not performing well by removing any right to claim unfair dismissal. If anyone is underperforming, it is the chinless old Etonian and his posh mates. It takes a particular kind of incompetence to have huge and still rising unemployment, massive inflation and no interest on our savings all at the same time.

Monday's three line whip said a lot about his confidence in his own performance. He daren't even give his own party a free vote, let alone the whole country!

[Andrew]

That would get rid of most of the fat cat bankers and MPs then, !

[Sportsman]

Is David Cameron suffering from some sort of Irony Impairment Disorder? I have to ask having read about his idea that it should be made easier to sack workers who are not performing well by removing any right to claim unfair dismissal. If anyone is underperforming, it is the chinless old Etonian and his posh mates. It takes a particular kind of incompetence to have huge and still rising unemployment, massive inflation and no interest on our savings all at the same time.

Monday's three line whip said a lot about his confidence in his own performance. He daren't even give his own party a free vote, let alone the whole country!

 

In France you can't dismiss just about anyone for any reason. Once you have a job here it is pretty much for life.

For this reason employers are very reluctant to give anyone a job and the result is high unemployment.(9.5%)

The only real jobs are in the public sector

 

Why should an employer carry on paying someone who is not earning their pay and why should someone who has been sacked for incompetence or laziness be able to go to an industrial tribunal. It's not what they are for.

 

As for the mess the country is currently in, can you imagine how infinitely worse it would be if the Brown / Darling horror had been allowed to continue You seem to forget that under their "leadership" the country was going down the pan so fast that by now all that would be left is the final gurgle.

Edited October 26, 2011 by Sportsman

[chesters1]

but you can already sack people for almost any reason bar colour or religion or sex ,it just takes a little longer

removing any rights means those i excluded can be got rid of and those the manager merely dislikes (or thinks is a threat to his position) as well.

the bad worker will continue to be a bad worker as they are usually clever or someone else does their blooming job for them so they continue unnoticed

 

but its probably just hot air as most things are we are run by europe not the PM in most cases but generally when anything controversial is leaked its hiding something else going on that the gov wants hidden

Edited October 26, 2011 by chesters1

[Andrew]

but its probably just hot air as most things are we are run by europe not the PM in most cases but generally when anything controversial is leaked its hiding something else going on that the gov wants hidden

 

 

Agree with that Chesters, usually some hidden agenda

[corydoras]

In France you can't dismiss just about anyone for any reason. Once you have a job here it is pretty much for life.

For this reason employers are very reluctant to give anyone a job and the result is high unemployment.(9.5%)

The only real jobs are in the public sector

You can read about French employment contracts here.

http://www.expatica.com/fr/employment/empl...acts-28704.html

[barry luxton]

Is David Cameron suffering from some sort of Irony Impairment Disorder? I have to ask having read about his idea that it should be made easier to sack workers who are not performing well by removing any right to claim unfair dismissal.

 

I fully understand exactly what he is reffering to, you obviously don't. I was taken to an industriel tribunial twice, the first one was where the guy was stealing time from me, when my backs turned and couldn't care less if he worked or not. The second one was an alledged decorator who had been doing it all is life, yet managed to ruin not one but two jobs, he didn't have a clue about paper hanging after lying to me and told me he was. He was cutting paper with a stanley knife for kick off's and you can just imagine what the ceiling and skirting joints looked like. He also manged to cause massive damage to a boiler by draining down while unauthorised, not telling anyone. until afterwards when the client turned on the empty boiler. That one i took two decoration witnesses with me who confirmed just how poor the work was. Guess what i lost both cases due to the actual power these idiots hold over the employer, lesson learned as i would never put myself in that situation again. Me, i have loads of work, will i share it out, not now, it ain't worth the greif.

Edited October 26, 2011 by barry luxton

[Andrew]

I fully understand exactly what he is reffering to, you obviously don't. I was taken to an industriel tribunial twice, the first one was where the guy was stealing time from me, when my backs turned and couldn't care less if he worked or not. The second one was an alledged decorator who had been doing it all is life, yet managed to ruin not one but two jobs, he didn't have a clue about paper hanging after lying to me and told me he was. He was cutting paper with a stanley knife for kick off's and you can just imagine what the ceiling and skirting joints looked like. He also manged to cause massive damage to a boiler by draining down while unauthorised, not telling anyone. until afterwards when the client turned on the empty boiler. That one i took two decoration witnesses with me who confirmed just how poor the work was. Guess what i lost both cases due to the actual power these idiots hold over the employer, lesson learned as i would never put myself in that situation again. Me, i have loads of work, will i share it out, not now, it ain't worth the greif.

 

 

How the hell did the tribunal people let him away with that FFS, i take it he wasnt Corgi registered then Barry ?

[barry luxton]

How the hell did the tribunal people let him away with that FFS, i take it he wasnt Corgi registered then Barry ?

 

Correct, although you can drain down say individual radiators, no one is allowed, to work on or fit boilers or gas lines unless you are a gas safe engineer.

[ColinW]

Barry, either he was a very slow decorator or you are a very unobservant manager, because to make an unfair dismissal claim an employee needs to have 12 month's continuous service.