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Correct, although you can drain down say individual radiators, no one is allowed, to work on or fit boilers or gas lines unless you are a gas safe engineer.

 

 

In hindsight Barry i would have threatened the pillock with prosecution, but where would that have put you within the law, ? would you also be liable as an employer ?

 

I worked for the local council and they were very strict with Corgi and other stuff. As a roofer i was often asked to fit gas vent ridge tiles. I always made sure the thing was checked by a registered gas fitter before booking the job off.

 

I did at time,s have words with the safety officer to explain my plight, only a gas vent ridge but an important bit of kit for the gas fire,s to work in the correct manner

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Is David Cameron suffering from some sort of Irony Impairment Disorder? I have to ask having read about his idea that it should be made easier to sack workers who are not performing well by removing any right to claim unfair dismissal.

 

Aren't politicians already a group you can sack with them having no right of appeal?

" My choices in life were either to be a piano player in a whore house or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference!" - Harry Truman, 33rd US President

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Barry, either he was a very slow decorator or you are a very unobservant manager, because to make an unfair dismissal claim an employee needs to have 12 month's continuous service.

 

Gotta say rubbish to both those observations at no time did i mention a slow decorator, i said he was rubbish. At the time i employed the scrote there was no time constraints of that nature with regards to unfair dismissal cases because he took me to one and he was employed for a very short period of time. As regards to being the boss, i don't miss a lot as i have been, doing it too long and i'm still around and busy, so i can't accept that comment either.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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In hindsight Barry i would have threatened the pillock with prosecution, but where would that have put you within the law, ? would you also be liable as an employer ?

 

I worked for the local council and they were very strict with Corgi and other stuff. As a roofer i was often asked to fit gas vent ridge tiles. I always made sure the thing was checked by a registered gas fitter before booking the job off.

 

I did at time,s have words with the safety officer to explain my plight, only a gas vent ridge but an important bit of kit for the gas fire,s to work in the correct manner

 

Hi Andrew.

 

Don't know if you can sue an employee, not a route i had considered. Not sure about gas vents either, at a guess i would imagine again that, only a gas safe guy can fit that today, even so he could need to be fully conversant with that part of the gas legislation. No one who is unqualified can touch gas work today, even if you get a gas safe guy in to check afterwards, you are still not acting correctly.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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I dont do it now Barry, gave up roofing 4 years ago mate, due to ill health.

 

I was thinking along the lines of reporting him to the HSE or someone like that,

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Gas safe??? DON'T make me laugh!!!! I was a gas fitter and did ALL the correct checks and even though I say it myself my Gas Fitting was 99% (Only GOD is (1005 and I never pretend to be him!)

 

Reported a fitter for leaving a leak which was classed as "Immediately Dangerous" result?? I fixed the dangerously open leak on a LEAD pipe and it cost me £150 into the bargain!! HIM?? CORGI did not even check the bloody job itself! The ONLY thing BG would do on 111999 was turn off the bloody supply!!!

 

Complete waste of effing time!!! (Sounds like we had the same bloke and his brother working for us there eh Barry??)

Chris Goddard


It is to be observed that 'angling' is the name given to fishing by people who can't fish.

If GOD had NOT meant us to go fishing, WHY did he give us arms then??

(If you can't help out someone in need then don't bother my old Dad always said! My grandma put it a LITTLE more, well different! It's like peeing yourself in a black pair of pants she said! It gives you a LOVELY warm feeling but no-one really notices!))

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Corgi guys have set foot in my house once in twenty years. They came in to fit a new meter. They won't be coming in again after I found that they'd left the meter hanging on the gas pipes and the mounting bracket lying in the bottom of the cupboard. If they can't be bothered to do something that simple properly then they certainly won't be touching my lovely antique boiler!

 

Back on thread. People will soon have to have been employed for two years before they can claim unfair dismissal. I think that should be enough for even the most Dickensian employer to decide whether someone is worth the risk of allowing to cross the protected threshold.

At the end of the day this is about UNFAIR dismissal. You can still sack people for being useless or bone idle and if you've allowed them to be like that for two years, what is another month or so to go through the correct procedures? Not many people would defend the "right" of an employer to sack a woman for getting pregnant or sack a man for having a nervous breakdown. Those are the kind of people who stand to lose out if Cameron gets his way.

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Corgi guys have set foot in my house once in twenty years. They came in to fit a new meter. They won't be coming in again after I found that they'd left the meter hanging on the gas pipes and the mounting bracket lying in the bottom of the cupboard. If they can't be bothered to do something that simple properly then they certainly won't be touching my lovely antique boiler!

 

Back on thread. People will soon have to have been employed for two years before they can claim unfair dismissal. I think that should be enough for even the most Dickensian employer to decide whether someone is worth the risk of allowing to cross the protected threshold.

At the end of the day this is about UNFAIR dismissal. You can still sack people for being useless or bone idle and if you've allowed them to be like that for two years, what is another month or so to go through the correct procedures? Not many people would defend the "right" of an employer to sack a woman for getting pregnant or sack a man for having a nervous breakdown. Those are the kind of people who stand to lose out if Cameron gets his way.

 

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I have to ask having read about his idea that it should be made easier to sack workers who are not performing well by removing any right to claim unfair dismissal.

 

 

Nothing about pregnancies or nervous breakdowns ;)

Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.

 

 

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity

 

 

 

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surely if the worker has agreed a work description and fail to fulfil it you can easy get rid of bad employees for breach of contract?

Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

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surely if the worker has agreed a work description and fail to fulfil it you can easy get rid of bad employees for breach of contract?

 

Tried putting that point across in detail with two witnesses who confirmed his work was crap, i also made the point that he was also knicking time off me. I lost. In hindsight, if i have a brief representing me then i suppose it might have been different, who knows?

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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