Coarse Angling Today - Let eels become extinct

[Nicepix]

While all this is going on the EA are supporting the return of otters to prime Nth Yorkshire trout rivers (where they have been extinct for many years) on the basis that otters eat..............................................

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited January 5, 2012 by Nicepix

[Emma two]

Have a look on the other forums and you will see that the overwhelming veiw is supportive of our stance. Your usual rather rude response is typical, and completely in character. I have not lectured, merely presented the club's stance. I would be pleased if you joined-we might be able to help you hook eels more effectively.

 

 

If I were aske to point out the most diplomatic, even handed and most likely to see boths sides of an issue contributor in here it would consistently be Budgie.

 

Perhaps we in here are more used to debate, there being by chance enough characters in here to challenge...well almost anything, perhaps you are used to a more compliant audience?

[Anderoo]

To be honest, I think the question of whether anglers should be indulging in eel bothering is a separate question, it was the idea that if a fish wasn't angled for it didn't matter if went extinct that I found particularly gobsmacking.

 

That's the bit that got me too, and what my comment was referring to. It's frightening how many 'anglers' think like this now. The balance of nature is something that only matters if it happens to benefit your particular favourite species, otherwise to hell with it.

[Mark7]

To be honest, I think the question of whether anglers should be indulging in eel bothering is a separate question, it was the idea that if a fish wasn't angled for it didn't matter if went extinct that I found particularly gobsmacking.

 

I agree, and that was the point of my initial post. If it were pike, the attitude would be a little different, methinks. I have now received an e mail from Kevin Clifford in respnse to my communication to Dan Williams. Kevin points out that his publications have always supported the conservation drive in the past, and his own experiences of eel stocks does not coincide with Dan's. I will not disclose his comments on the content of the editorial at this stage. He has undertaken to put their (as publishers) view on the issue in the February edition.

[Emma two]

( pondpig.

 

 

I like that, havn't heard that one before, must remember it.

[Mark7]

While all this is going on the EA are supporting the return of otters to prime Nth Yorkshire trout rivers (where they have been extinct for many years) on the basis that otters eat..............................................

 

The EA are also working with the Sustainable Eel Group, whose mission appears to be to increase the marketing of elvers and eels as a food source. The NAC and the Angling Trust withdrew from the group in protest some time ago, but EA support continues......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Mark7]

Sorry to be "rude" again Mark but you still dont seem to realise that no one is disputing that something is going wrong with anguilla anguilla. Not entirely sure where the problem lays but its certainly not with recreational anglers!

 

What we are objecting to (sorry if Im speaking for others but I get the impression we all seem to think much the same) is the way you go about things.You obviously dont realise it but it is quite offensive. Educate,advise but dont preach mate.

 

I would love you to "help me hook eels more effectively" and thats why I keep asking you to show me how to and prove to me all of these (what I believe) wives tales,eel angling myths and other so called claims are true! Show me that you dont ever (no thats me being unfair now, lets change that to hardly ever,NO infact lets say dont more than do) deep hook eels when your specificaly targeting them.Show me that if you cut the trace on a deep hooked one that they can get rid of the hook etc etc. I would gladly join up and publicly eat humble pie.

 

And maybe in return I could try and teach you how to be a bit more diplomatic in spreading the good word? Maybe just joining in on the eel threads we often have on here with your own veiws,sugestions general eel chat rather than just (seemingly) only taking part in the forum when your riding your high horse?

 

It would seem that your views are in a minority when taking into account the responses on other forums. I might be inclined to get involved in your eel discussions if your approach were less aggressive. Consequently, I am dismayed by your offer to teach me diplomacy. Even on this forum, fellow posters have agreed that Dan's comments were rather suprising, especially his view that as few people fish for eels it doesnt matter if they go extinct. It would appear that your problem is with me personally, as opposed to the content of my post.

[Mark7]

If I were aske to point out the most diplomatic, even handed and most likely to see boths sides of an issue contributor in here it would consistently be Budgie.

 

Perhaps we in here are more used to debate, there being by chance enough characters in here to challenge...well almost anything, perhaps you are used to a more compliant audience?

 

Well, of course you feel like that-you agree with each other! And I loathe compliance. Whenever we have debates like this online we gain more members, so it must be good.

[Dick Dastardly]

"The EA are also working with the Sustainable Eel Group, whose mission appears to be to increase the marketing of elvers and eels as a food source. The NAC and the Angling Trust withdrew from the group in protest some time ago, but EA support continues......"

 

And there lays another very strange story!

 

As you say Mark it is quite worrying but then again to be honest its not supprising that the EA has chosen a very strange bed fellow with the SEG. But Ive allways felt that the EA's prime interest has allways been water and not necessarily whats in it!

 

A brave man to link your club with the AT though!

 

So when you comming down for a bit of eel fishing and to show me and Dales how not to deep hook them? In fact as well as that (despite my rudeness you might actually enjoy it aswell!) how about putting together something that Elton can publish on here teaching us all how to fish for eels with minimum impact?

In the early days of "Put Pike Back" (and indeed "Eels are for sport not for bait") campaigns I would have leaped at such a chance.

[Dick Dastardly]

I agree, and that was the point of my initial post. If it were pike, the attitude would be a little different, methinks. I have now received an e mail from Kevin Clifford in respnse to my communication to Dan Williams. Kevin points out that his publications have always supported the conservation drive in the past, and his own experiences of eel stocks does not coincide with Dan's. I will not disclose his comments on the content of the editorial at this stage. He has undertaken to put their (as publishers) view on the issue in the February edition.

 

I didnt have a problem with your initial post either Mark.I was glad that some one brought the article to our attention.My remarks were aimed at your later posts (and I will admit some what unfairly perhaps) your general attitude towards "non eel specialists" (or in fact non NAC members) and the whole denial thing.