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#21 Bradford Angler

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Posted 12 January 2003 - 01:48 AM

from a bit further up from Greg Long

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I lost 2 3lb carp and one 4.5lber, they just killed and left them when they couldn't swallow them. they can swallow 10inchers.

I thought that there were only a limited number species that killed beyond what they could eat.

Cormies and mink and of course man.

I thought actually herons only went for the fry in the margins . . .

definately the trolley jack option :) :)
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Posted 12 January 2003 - 05:30 AM

[QUOTE] I thought actually herons only went for the fry in the margins . . .

I really wish that were the case Bradford, but unfortunately it isn't, & I really wish I wasn't posting from experience but unfortunately I am.
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Posted 12 January 2003 - 07:04 AM

craig mason:
i think that my 6000 japanese koi are more important than these birds

Oh really? As you have admitted on the coarse angling thread ('frequency of rod licence checking'), you're unemployed & don't buy as rod licence as you can't afford one. Sure. But you fish from your boat and keep 6000 koi... and admit to killing two species of protected bird.

In your shoes I'd expect a visit soon from the venerable Mr William, and woe betide you if you have also failed to buy a shotgun licence (5 year gaol minimum from now on).
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Posted 13 January 2003 - 02:12 PM

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In your shoes I'd expect a visit soon from the venerable Mr William, and woe betide you if you have also failed to buy a shotgun licence (5 year gaol minimum from now on).

Aren't you also supposed to keep a shotgun in some sort of secure cabinet and not just 'by the back door'?
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Posted 13 January 2003 - 09:03 PM

fair point i have put my gun somewere safeunder lock and key and have installed a heron deterrent that i bought from my local koi centre as i wasn't aware that shooting herons was illegal as a fish farm owner friend of mine has shot loads of them when they have been attacking his stock ponds so i thought it was ok to shoot them if they attack your fish
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Posted 14 January 2003 - 12:21 AM

Anyone else tried the "artificial goldfish"? A plastic goldfish that is tethered to a stone by a piece if fishing line, rigged so it is floating just under the surface. The idea is that the heron spots it first, has a nab, finds it weighs about a pound more than it should, gets all flustered and flys away. They cost 1.99 from a garden centre. I have one in place, plus the 18 inch high wire round the pond, and haven't lost any goldfish to herons all last year. Wish I could see the herons face when he catches the plastic fish though... :D
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Posted 14 January 2003 - 03:46 AM

Thankful to my local seagull population. As soon as herons land anywhere near, the local head of seagulls start dive bombing and making one hell of a commotion. Loud enough to alert us and let our heron detterent out into the back garden, he then goes into sentry duty watching the skies. As soon as he spots it rushs straight back into the house and watchs from the back door.

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Posted 14 January 2003 - 03:50 AM

forgot to mention that our deterant is a four year old GSD. (Giant scared dog)

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Posted 15 January 2003 - 04:01 AM

They cost 1.99 from a garden centre. I have one in place, plus the 18 inch high wire round the pond, and haven't lost any goldfish to herons all last year. Wish I could see the herons face when he catches the plastic fish though

Hope the Heron doesn't see the funny side and invite all his mates round, fish that way heavier than they should must be very popular talking points for herons :D must be like us going for the specimens, you might just get up one morning to find a heron camped out in a bivvy :D :D

yes I have seen them in the shops . . normally in the reduced section
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Posted 16 January 2003 - 03:28 AM

i havent seen the "goldfish" :D yet ,my old employer had a wonderfull pond with koi and orfe and we had trouble with our "local" heron ,plastic herons failed and as the pond had a planting ledge wires were useless (he? could fly over the trip wire and land on the ledge) the best thing we found that worked (we used the owl to no effect) was a plastic black cat with very large eyes this moved every couple of days seemed to deter the bird .
remember though that herons are a pest because you keep or fish for fish ,if they were a pest in reality
as they have been about for millions of years then if they were a menace and fish gobbler there would be no fish occuring in nature , they come to your pond as its the bird equivelent of our fast food stores ,we use them can we blame herons for using theirs. if we leave a bike unlocked in a street who do we blame when its knicked ,the same applies to a pond , dont shoot ......deter
on the bright side there probably only 1 heron if it was corms your pond would be a hole filled with water and nothing else
the useless plastic heron we gave to our pet male goose as a "wife" he used to get VERY annoyed if you approached it :D

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