Wingham Fish-In Sat May 19th to Mon May 21st

[Steve Burke]

I heartily agree with what Dales and Anderoo have posted.

 

I'd like to repeat 2 pieces of advice as they're so important at Wingham.

Firstly, don't put too much feed in to begin with. This is because you could be putting it in the wrong place. Wingham regulars will be on hand to give you all the advice you want. But plumb/mark your swim carefully before feeding.

 

Secondly, if you're not getting bites then recast to another spot nearly.

 

A good example of this succeeding is the catch I mentioned earlier in this topic by Colin Allchin. He was struggling in poor conditions. I didn't rate his chances but suggested he try tip 2 above.

 

He really worked over the swim and was rewarded with 13 tench to 9-04 plus a bream of 18-02. Fine angling indeed!

[Errrm]

Some of my biggest Wingham tench have come to a simple running maggot feeder - feeder running on the line, bead, swivel, 8lb mono hooklength, maggots straight on the hook. Others have come to fake corn/maggots/caster on a hair and short hooklength and semi-fixed lead. I really don't think it matters, I would follow Dales' advice and do whatever you're most comfortable with. If it's in the right spot you'll catch, I'd spend your efforts trying to find nice little spots to fish accurately to and use whatever rigs you like.

 

I've played around with fake corn rigs for a couple of seasons now and have something I'm happy with; if I get a chance I'll stick a photo up. But I would still stress that it's not the rig that catches the fish at Wingham. Location and baiting is everything.

 

I think the problem for me is that I'm more in the situation that I'm not confident in anything...... really trying to get out both days this weekend to sort something out :-)

[Sportsman]

I'm also thinking of coming down Friday evening - may socialise and then kip in the car if there are a few people about.

 

That would be in the Saab rather than the Lotus then

[John Weddup]

Hi

 

A couple of questions for the wingham experts please.

 

I tend to use a keepnet this time of year just to safely retain a fish whilst I organise myself for a picture. I prefer this to a carp sack as the fish has more room.

 

With keepnets banned do members use a carpsack?.

 

 

 

My hooks at present for biggish bream are kamasan B983. A wide gape strongish hook but not too heavy gauge. This might not be strong enough for a 9lb tench.

 

Would be interested to know what members use.

 

Thanks

 

John

[Steve Walker]

That would be in the Saab rather than the Lotus then

 

 

Yes, unless I buy a trailer!

[Steve Burke]

Keepnets aren't allowed I'm afraid but sacks are for 10 minutes whilst you set up photo gear. If you get a big fish during daylight just call one of the numbers on the sheet you'll be given and someone will help if you want it.

 

Full rules will be going out to guests shortly.

 

As for hooks I use Korum S3s hooks and highly recommend them. Several other Wingham syndicate members use them too.

 

Hi

 

A couple of questions for the wingham experts please.

 

I tend to use a keepnet this time of year just to safely retain a fish whilst I organise myself for a picture. I prefer this to a carp sack as the fish has more room.

 

With keepnets banned do members use a carpsack?.

 

 

 

My hooks at present for biggish bream are kamasan B983. A wide gape strongish hook but not too heavy gauge. This might not be strong enough for a 9lb tench.

 

Would be interested to know what members use.

 

Thanks

 

John

[MadRuss]

I think it's caused by a conversation with Glynn last year, he said the tench seem to prefer smaller baits and watching the Korda underwater films seem to show the tench much prefering smaller/semi-bouyant baits. So far I'm having problems getting a artificial corn rig I'm confident with.

 

I had 3 tench last year, two of them was on tutti fruiti boiles.

 

The other and biggest (9lb 6) was on my Drennan Mark V tench rod, my okuma Sheffield centre pin and a big old lob worm kindly supplied by Steve.

 

Great fun...

[Anderoo]

I've really gone off semi-bouyant/neutrally bouyant baits over the last couple of seasons. I just couldn't get them to work right. If you have the hair coming off the bend of the hook like a bottom bait it doesn't work properly, and if you have the hair coming off the eye of the hook like a pop-up it doesn't work either. I think you need a longish hair coming off halfway down the shank for it to be able to drop onto the lip properly, but I then had problems with it twisting round the shank during the cast and spoiling the presentation.

 

In the end I had enough of it, and now only use bottom baits or pop-ups. For fake corn/maggots/casters I use a little pop-up rig with a short hair coming off the eye, with a no. 8 shot about 1cm from the hook. The weight of the hook and the shot is enough to hold one bit of fake corn just off the bottom. The angle of the hook then make it very effective at pricking the fish, as it's sitting horizontally like a claw.

[John Weddup]

I've really gone off semi-bouyant/neutrally bouyant baits over the last couple of seasons. I just couldn't get them to work right. If you have the hair coming off the bend of the hook like a bottom bait it doesn't work properly, and if you have the hair coming off the eye of the hook like a pop-up it doesn't work either. I think you need a longish hair coming off halfway down the shank for it to be able to drop onto the lip properly, but I then had problems with it twisting round the shank during the cast and spoiling the presentation.

 

In the end I had enough of it, and now only use bottom baits or pop-ups. For fake corn/maggots/casters I use a little pop-up rig with a short hair coming off the eye, with a no. 8 shot about 1cm from the hook. The weight of the hook and the shot is enough to hold one bit of fake corn just off the bottom. The angle of the hook then make it very effective at pricking the fish, as it's sitting horizontally like a claw.

 

 

Hi Anderoo

 

very interesting as over the last year I experimented with bouyant against bottom and I have found bottom to be far more reliable in most situations other than deep silt or weed.

 

Most of the venues I am using these tactics are deep water, hence little weed, and hard bottomed.

 

The problem recently has been finding local shops that stock sinking false corn everyone seems to want bouyant. I had to resort to mail order.

 

John

[Dales]

As for hooks I use Korum S3s hooks and highly recommend them. Several other Wingham syndicate members use them too.

 

After been put on to them by another Wingham member, I know use the Korum S3s for all my maggot and castor fishing at Wingham. However I much prefer using ESP Big T and T6 for my boilie fishing and something like ESP or Korda Longshanx or similar long shank hook for worm fishing.

 

John the Wingham Tench don't half go like steam trains once hooked and so you need a good strong hook and as there are certainly more big Tench then Bream I tend to tackle up with a big Tench in mind and so pick a much heavier hook then I would if I was only Bream fishing.

 

For what it's worth I tend to fish pop ups most of the time at Wingham when using boilies but I a whole range of tactics should work.

Edited May 9, 2012 by Dales