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I saw a comment about there being NO CARP IN THE USA> As a UK born and Raised CArp hunter And A Canadian I can assure the person that thee are Carp in the USA and CAnad Southern boundary it just takes knowledgeof the local waterways and Primarily backwaters that are becomming cloggged with Eurasian Milfoil the favourite hidign hole for a large Carp . The Sumas River in Wshinggtom State has some monsters as do the waters of Ossoyous Lake in Southern BC those rivers and Slow water sloughs are loaded and they do not need passorts to cross the boarder. When I want a chanve of pace to my salmon trout Bass hunts, carp are my quarry as they are the only memories of hy youth in the UK I can catch we do not have Tench Roach Rudd large Chub ours do not exceed the size of minnows 2-4 inches and weightless. I miss that fishing and Hope to retire to the Broads regio and resume my Angling Retirement Salm,on Are primarily FOOD Fish and the tackle we use in Canada is Akin to Fishing witrh a Tugboat and 1 inch steel cable no sport in that. I guess I am just spoiled I can Fill my Deep freeze every year between July and December. I need only SDalmon taggs to monitor my catch an ually and A sport fishing licence the same cost as a Course Environmental Licence Fishing is Free just find a spot and Cast . It was that way with a few exceptions in the UK in my youth. SO IF you find Catfish your likely to find Carp try a Few parboiles potatoes or bread squised to a dough . it will ward off worm hungry Bass and Catfish . Carp are Shy and do not like motion on the bank or voices. be patient they like to make a five course meal out of a piece of baitm that takes time to suck and disolve the bait the hook will spook the fish at first touch so an Early strike will leave the bait in the part open mouth of the Fish and slip the hook beyond the mouth on strike. The Fraser river sloughs ( Backwaters)are Full of Carp that provide fast action they are not like UK Carp, made shy by the repeated catching a problem caused by Catch and release praticed in the UK from times far erlier than mine . Canada Sees Carp as a Garbage Fish and will often selectively poison them off to protect the trout and Salmon fishery. this takes Bass as well. HOwever As an Environmental Chemist I see more damage to salmonids than Carp. THE damage to Salmon Eggs is not a Carp issue as the Egggs incubate in very fast flowing Waters required to keep the eggs oygenated Carp do not venture into such waters only by accident. IF your a trout Fisherman you wont find Carp If Bass is your Fun you may find a few but in the slowest of fdlowing Waters and calmest of lakes . Canadian Anglers do not hunt Carp and miss out on a Fun inexpensive day . and a great way to teach a youngster a big fish needs respect.

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I saw a comment about there being NO CARP IN THE USA

 

Where did you see that?

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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Where did you see that?

My initial thought too. It is widely known that there are a great deal of carp in the US. I have never seen anyone on here dispute this.

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My initial thought too. It is widely known that there are a great deal of carp in the US. I have never seen anyone on here dispute this.

 

It must have been phone :D

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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If Phone is to be believed then there is nothing but carp in the US ;)

 

P.s. Only kidding Phone :D

 

 

Not forgetting "suckers" - I thought locals were referring to carp in a derogatory manner when they asked me if I had caught any suckers..... until later when I started catching them... like carp but with an under slung mouth (underslung but not as much as a barbel...another carp family member).

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There are a very few places in the US that do not have carp. Usually you can figure out the conditions that cause this but not always.

 

The Florida peninsula area, for instance, does not seem to have any carp at all although the Florida panhandle section does as do the states that border Florida just to the north. The weather is mild, the waters are plentiful and have good water so most warm water fresh water fish thrive in the peninsula lakes & rivers but not carp

 

Sometimes people will tell you a particular lake or river does not have carp simply because they've never seen or heard of one being caught and don't recognize the spawning behavior as being carp.

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Hey!

 

I resemble that remark.

 

Actually I believe I said we have the "best" carp as well as the most.

 

Phone

(actually I've never caught carp North of about 60 - 70 latitude in Canada)

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