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What is a cheap way to bulk out your groundbait. I have a bit left and I am looking to bulk it out cheaply :)

 

All ideas welcome :thumbs:

 

I'm just a beginner to this angling lark, but I would suggest a loaf of stale bread whiz zed up fine in a food processor, added to your groundbait with some of whatever you are planning to use as hook bait.

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Chris,

 

What species? How much is a "bit" and how cheap is "cheaply"? Do you want to "fuss" with it a litte (i.e. want to take time to grind something or just mix in).

 

For carp, pet food (ground up) is cool. Also, any animal grade cereal grain is cool. One of the "favorites" on this side of the pond is called "range cubes" (somone translate "range cube" for Chris.) The ones for lactating cows are good.

 

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Chris,

 

What species? How much is a "bit" and how cheap is "cheaply"? Do you want to "fuss" with it a litte (i.e. want to take time to grind something or just mix in).

 

For carp, pet food (ground up) is cool. Also, any animal grade cereal grain is cool. One of the "favorites" on this side of the pond is called "range cubes" (somone translate "range cube" for Chris.) The ones for lactating cows are good.

 

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Well at the moment I have about half kg of The Source groundbait and half kg of Dynamite Baits Silver X Canal & lake groundbait. I'm looking for anything I can bulk these out with to make them last longer.

 

Im not fussed if it involves any prep or just something to mix straight in.

 

By pet food do you mean dog biscuits ground up. If so do I grind these up as they are or do they need prep? Also what ratio would i mix it at? And would this still be useable on the method feeder?

 

Chris

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Depends upon what you want to achieve.

 

Do you want to get it down to the bottom quickly past the tiddlers?

 

Do you want to create a cloud-effect in the water column, enticing fish out of the weedbeds?

 

Do you want to add colour to the (clear) water to create confidence?

 

Brown crumb will help spread the groundbait, white crumb will get it down fast and keep it together to bait a small area.

 

Earth from molehills will help muddy the water, and give a different texture to the bottom compared to the surrounding area, bringing inquisitive feeders to investigate.

 

Flour, powdered-milk, food-colourings, sugar ............

 

But work out first what species you aim to target, the conditions of the water, and why you want to add a particular ingredient.

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Chris,

 

OK, you have a pound each of a couple products from Dynamite - Silver X Canal & lake groundbait (for predatory fish I think(?)) and The Source (a carp ground bait).

 

Pretty hard to bulk out a pound of commercial product. It is already "bulked" out by the manufacturer. How about doing the opposite - that is enhancing something else with what you have left over. I would agree with Chris P, Try Vitalin with The Source. Maybe 2 kg Vitalin and the rest of our Source.

 

I don't know squat about the other stuff.

 

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Like others I think it will depend on what you are fishing for and the venue. If you are after large fish in big groups such as Bream then yes it might be a good idea to try to bulk out your ground bait, however if you are just enjoying a little pleasure fishing with a swim feeder for what ever happens along then it might be worth just introducing less feed via a smaller feeder to make it last longer. Simply mixing your current groundbait with White or Brown crumb used as per Leons advice will help bulk out your groundbaits.

 

But if after Roach, Crucians etc in a water that holds bigger fish like carp, tench and bream then I would use my groundbait sparingly so as not to attract the bigger fish.

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Brown crumb is the safest option, and in fact it's very rare I use any commercially available groundbait without cutting it 50/50 with brown crumb. I'd avoid white crumb personally, it's a lot finer and easier to mix wrong.

 

Layers pellets (chicken feed) are also good and very cheap. They can be added to the mix as pellets but break down quickly on the bottom.

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