Pikeing without trebles

[chezz]

Does anybody out there use barbless circle hooks instead of 19 th century trebles as I have yet to hook a pike deeply in the last ten years. I mention this as I saw a fatality only yesterday at my local lake two fellers with all the proper gear with a deep hooked pike the cause trebles in it's gut. I took it on the first indication he said awful sight I can tell you nearly put me off fishing for good. you don't use trebles for barracuda why use them for pike,.

[Mark Wintle]

Mike Ladle has been promoting them for years on his site.

[Andy_1984]

the fact its the first time you've seen anything like it in 10 years doesnt exactly make me want to rush out and buy circles. A deep hooked pike is not a death sentence.

 

there is a topic around here where Leon Roskilly trialed circles for pike. the results were good but a lot of the time the circles caught in the scissors. imo not a great idea, for pike anyway but thats just me.

 

topic: http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/Trebles-t701534.html

[chezz]

the fact its the first time you've seen anything like it in 10 years doesnt exactly make me want to rush out and buy circles. A deep hooked pike is not a death sentence.

 

there is a topic around here where Leon Roskilly trialed circles for pike. the results were good but a lot of the time the circles caught in the scissors. imo not a great idea, for pike anyway but thats just me.

 

topic: http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/Trebles-t701534.html

It's not the first time I have seen this in ten years, I actually said I have not deep hooked a pike in ten years . Hair rigged deads on a tag from a tagging gun fish can swallow completely and the hook just backs up every time, going back to your misinterpretation I have seen it many many times and mostimes if the fish is hooked in the stomach it's game over the stomach acids leak into the intestinal region causing I imagine great pain.

[Andy_1984]

It's not the first time I have seen this in ten years, I actually said I have not deep hooked a pike in ten years . Hair rigged deads on a tag from a tagging gun fish can swallow completely and the hook just backs up every time, going back to your misinterpretation I have seen it many many times and mostimes if the fish is hooked in the stomach it's game over the stomach acids leak into the intestinal region causing I imagine great pain.

 

sorry for the little misunderstanding. so when you say you havnt deep hooked a pike in 10 years did you mean by using circle hooks or trebles ?

 

and as for seeing it many many times, those people must be doing something wrong, poor bite indication is probably the issue there, or not paying proper attention, drinking, sleeping, having a carry on etc etc.

 

its not always game over, not if you know what your doing that is. granted i havnt been pike fishing for 10 years but i tell ya all the problems with pike i see are because of ignorant novices. and in the case of circles hooks i doubt that would change stupidity and handling skills.

[Andy_1984]

actually now i think of it ive been pike fishing for 7-8 years and never had a deep hooked pike using trebles. ive got a great mentor, cheers Andy Macfarlane.

[chezz]

sorry for the little misunderstanding. so when you say you havnt deep hooked a pike in 10 years did you mean by using circle hooks or trebles ?

 

and as for seeing it many many times, those people must be doing something wrong, poor bite indication is probably the issue there, or not paying proper attention, drinking, sleeping, having a carry on etc etc.

 

its not always game over, not if you know what your doing that is. granted i havnt been pike fishing for 10 years but i tell ya all the problems with pike i see are because of ignorant novices. and in the case of circles hooks i doubt that would change stupidity and handling skills.

You have hit the nail on the head Andy not responding quick enough. Trying to tell people this apparently hasnt worked their will always be a lot of people who ignore the rods once they are out. but even hitting the bite early doesn't always work. Ten years with circles and another thirty five with trebles has taught me there is no contest which is safest ,bait presentaion is better too Especially with the latest wire from the states you can knot it untie it and it doesent kink!!.

[Andy_1984]

you clearly have more experience with the trebles than i do. for me though i dont see any reason for me to change yet if at all, like i say handling, indication etc goes a long way. i see the point in circles though as per Leons experiments with them although the whole scissors thing doesnt sit right with me. what wire is this you speak of it sounds interesting, how is it for crimping ?

[PeterNE1]

what wire is this you speak of it sounds interesting, how is it for crimping ?

 

......... yeah, I'd be interested in the answer to that question too!

[Dales]

I am not sure that circles are the wonder hooks that some make out. I do not doubt that a high percentage catch in the mouth but as Andy states is hooking them in the scissors ideal? They are also not the easiest hooks to roll out if deep hooked and they do not always catch in the mouth. Experienced anglers may have very few issues but the same can be said about trebles. Oddly I think less experienced anglers may have less problems with trebles and J hooks then an awkward positioned circle.