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Wingham Fish-In dates 2013


Steve Burke

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I don't think anyone has fished for them recently, Leon! And as you know hardly anyone uses worm at Wingham. Not only is it the best bait for the perch at Wingham, the tench love it too.

 

I had intended to fish for the perch this spring myself but managed just a 2 nighter with working during the day.

 

How would you suggest fishing a worm to target the perch and tench Steve ? on it's own? or over some sort of groundbait ?

 

and how do i avoid the eels at night ;)

 

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Dunno why but i always seem to deep hook and have trouble unhooking freshwater eels. Never have the same problem unhooking them when caught in salt water though!

 

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Mat - I know basically zero about catching eels (none live anywhere I've ever fished except Wingham the one time) but I'd be curious about how circle hooks would work. Anytime I hear about deep hooking issues, that's usually my first thought since circles rarely deep hook due to their design.

 

Maybe some of the eel experts could pitch in here with solid information. I know you can get smallish circles in the #8 or #6 range with microbarbs. OK, OK, so #8 is only smallish to a US angler but its pretty much the smallest hook I ever use and should be fine for any 1+ lb fish-type critter.

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Try to avoid the margins with worm at night instead put somethingelse on although a 4lb was caught on a boilie 30 yards out....So forget that !! :doh:

It might well depend on what swim you get as there does seem to be a few nests of them in one swim and i was told reliably where another was.

I think just don't use worm at night will cut your chances down

 

Newt. I have always fished for eels with longshanks for obvious reasons but i have been trying Budgies circle hooks. The idea is that the eel sucks in the bait then feels it blows it out and pricks itself in the lip. You really need do nothing apart from pick the rod up and DON'T STRIKE into the fish.

My results so far are very limited but 2 have been in the lip 1 deep hooked on a free running rig. I can't see the point on a bolt rig using these as it may work against you.

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The only thing you can do to avoid eels is to avoid/limit the amount of maggots and/or worms you feed. Once they're in the swim, you'll catch them on pretty much any bait, including fake baits (although you will catch even more with maggot/worm hookbaits).

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How would you suggest fishing a worm to target the perch and tench Steve ? on it's own? or over some sort of groundbait ?

 

and how do i avoid the eels at night ;)

 

Mat

 

I've done well in the past at Wingham with worm over chopped worm + red/white maggots.

 

The perch won't always be on the bottom. Their feeding depth usually (but not always) depends on the amount of underwater light. The brighter it is the deeper they're likely to be, or tucked on the shady side of a steep bar.

 

Neither will the tench always de on the bottom for that matter. In the swim I've provisionally earmarked for you I had several tench 18ins deep over 9ft of water! In clear water as we have at present the tench tend to patrol in deep water and then go down to the bottom to investigate anything they see.

 

There's a daphnia explosion on the Carp Lake at the moment and, as the Main Lake is always behind the Carp Lake, there may be a similar explosion on the Main Lake during the Fish-In. I'd therefore also use some fake orange corn. This doesn't seem to put the perch off, indeed it seems to attract them.

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If you want to avoid the eels you could always try fishing for them ;)

Funny you say that, I put out an eel rod last night over a patch of dead maggots and not a single bite on it. A few weeks back I was plagued with them when targeting the Tench. I do feel some swims as Dave H mentioned do hold more then others. I think they hole up in some snags or deep water. But as you said in another post if you over feed maggot/worm in your swim in general you will attract them from far and wide and then even plastic baits will not ensure you do not catch them.

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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