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Which hook knot do you use?


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Thanks guys, got a lot to try out and see which one I find works best. Cheers :thumbs:

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Peter,

 

Throughout the world. However in the UK some guys try to catch them on purpose. ("dink" = small and insignificant fish - i.e. most UK species other than common carp).

 

davedave,

 

Be careful and don't get overwhelmed, some very good knots require you have access to BOTH ends of the line (like snell knots).

 

Newt,

 

Again please! Undoubtly the finest of all knots.

 

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This is a topic that crops up regularly, as does whether spitting on a knot is beneficial or not. To save time here's what I've posted in the past:

 

"Re the popular practice of spitting on a knot. There's an interesting snippet in the US book "Advanced Bass Fishing" by John Weiss about this belief, over which there's been lot of debate.

Scientists at Du Pont decided to test this, and found that there was actually no difference between lubricated and unlubricated knots. Despite this, they also concluded that spitting on knots can help in practice, simply because these knots were more likely to be tied well.

They also found that the type of knot the angler elects to tie is not nearly as important as the care he uses in the actual tying process.

My own choice is the Palomar. This is purely because I find it easier to tie, and so it works better for me than an alternative that I don't tie as well.

By the way, "Advanced Bass Fishing" is well worth the UK coarse angler reading despite our not having these species in the UK."

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tried several lines over the years and have come to settle on Maxima Chameleon the knot i use depends on the type of fishing im doing.

 

ill use spade ends and a matchman hook tyer for small hooks like size 20's on fine line or a blood knot on most hooks if i dont have spade ends or want to set up quickly.

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for all my carp and pike fishing, pike fishing most of all ill use a uni/grinner knot(why is there two names for that?) though i dont pass the line through the hook twice as i found it damages more which is probably my fault ?

 

Interesting thing about the saliva, ive found some lines need it and some lines just dont tie properly when lubed.

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Palomar here too, I use it for braid joining to swivels and find it good for mono to hooks as well. I can't seem tie even a well lubricated grinner knot without the line kinking.

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  • Hook or swivel to flourocarbon - palomar (safest one to use with flourocarbon)

Hook or swivel to mono - half blood knot (doesn't curl up the line, plenty strong enough if tied carefully)

Hook or swivel to braid - grinner/uni (doesn't slip and braid can't curl up like mono)

Hook to braid when using a hair - knotless knot (I don't use a knotless knot with stiffer materials like mono, the angle is too severe)

Braid to flourocarbon or mono - albright knot (perch and zander leaders, and also for making combi-rigs)

Mono to mono - full blood knot or 4-turn water knot (full blood if the two diamaters are very different, water knot if similar)

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Here's a drawing I made of the Domhoff knot some time ago for a similar thread....

 

 

Domhoffknot.jpg

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Here's a drawing I made of the Domhoff knot some time ago for a similar thread....

 

 

Domhoffknot.jpg

A knot i have forgotton, is where the tag end lays along the shank with the coils around it. I don't know the name of it, if it has one and a drawing of the same would be nice. I used it years ago before crimps on a 10/0 hooks using 250lb line for conger eel. Best thing about the knot was it was simple to tie and also you could use 10-15 turns. Help, me memory has failed

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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A knot i have forgotton, is where the tag end lays along the shank with the coils around it. I don't know the name of it, if it has one and a drawing of the same would be nice. I used it years ago before crimps on a 10/0 hooks using 250lb line for conger eel. Best thing about the knot was it was simple to tie and also you could use 10-15 turns. Help, me memory has failed

Have a look on here Barry, (when you have a spare hour or two).

 

http://www.animatedknots.com/knotlist.php?LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com

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