Benefit Cuts

[Andrew]

Record benefit payments?

 

You mean like the record fraud of the greedy crimminals they call bankers?

 

And its about time the greedy MPs expenses were capped, or even cut, we're all in this together, what a pile of shoite.

[big_cod]

Cambo claims over £25,000 a year releife of tax payers money on his morgage the man is worth millions estimated to be 30 million he aint doing nothing elegal but hey the country is in dire straight and he is kicking the poorest in the hollocks looks good doesnt it.

 

paul.

[Ken L]

MP's expences and Camerons personal package. Neither of these things have anything do do with the rights or wrongs of capping benefits.

The salaries of many working people (myself included) have risen at below inflation rates every single year for over a decade. Strictly speaking, this has nothing to do with the benefits debate either but a comparison with what is happening to incomes in other sectors of society is at least informative.

What really matters is what the country can afford, and if we can't aford the status quo, how do we deal with that ?

[barry luxton]

Record benefit payments?

 

You mean like the record fraud of the greedy crimminals they call bankers?

no, both you and big cod are way off topic, start another if you feel the need, can you answer my question, what would the labour party do regarding the massive industry of benifit payments, nothing?

 

btw, your banking topic, should you feel the need, do include the fsa.Set up by............

[Andrew]

http://mikesivier.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/deconstructing-iain-coalition-benefit-lies-fall-apart-at-debate/

[Old geezer]

Percentages mean nothing really. 1% f £50000 is £500, where 1% of 200 pounds is £2.

[Lid]

Our tax systems and benefits systems are ridiculously complex and bureaucratic and costs £millions to administer. They could easily be made far simpler and cheaper to run, but then thousands of civil servants would be out of work. I have been saying for years we live in a benefit ridden society and finally it is being recognised. However it is not being addressed with much common sense. Look at child benefit capping; it is ridiculous that it based on the income of one parent, not both. And what about the child tax credits, I bet they cost twice as much to administer then they return, yet all they had to do was alter your tax code and hey presto you get the credit..

 

Don't get me wrong, there will always be people in society who need need benefits and they should get them, but we need to be much better at ensuring they go to the right people and those that can work. etc are incentivised to do so.

Edited January 9, 2013 by Lid

[Phone]

All,

 

We're no better. I sometimes think Herman Cain (failed Presidental candidate) had it right. 9 - 9 - 9.

 

The plan, called for a 9% income tax, 9% national sales tax and 9% corporate income tax, would create tax equality and stabilize federal finances.

 

Distribution would be so much easier to follow.

 

Phone

 

Just my thoughts. It doesn't seem to matter if politicians are left or if they are right. They demand sacrifice from 10% their unpopular constituencies - one from the poor and the other from the rich. No one likes the very rich but then no one likes the very poor either. Eventually someone with guts will have to look to the 80% in the middle - like me.

[Ken L]

Our tax systems and benefits systems are ridiculously complex and bureaucratic and costs £millions to administer. They could easily be made far simpler and cheaper to run, but then thousands of civil servants would be out of work.

Believe me, there ain't nobody running around looking for ways to protect or create civil service jobs.

As to the tax system, you're right, it's ripe for reform and when it is done, the first people to be in for a shock will be those high earners bemoning the child benefit reforms and teling everyone how much tax they pay. Yes, they pay a higher rate of income tax but at about the same salary point that brings them into higher rate income tax, their national insurance contributions suddenly plummet to 2.5%. The upshot is that the proportion of their gross salary that they take home doesn't change nearly as much as they might have people believe.

Yes, reform the tax system, combine income tax and I, get rid of tax cedits and then start cleaning up the rest of the system.

 

BTW, The main Social Security changes are to come. PIP relpaces DLA on 08.04.12 and Universal Credit goes live in October replacing a whole slew of current benefits.

[chesters1]

Find it amusingthe govs dtermination to pick on the disabled to claw back money yet they admit its open house on ANY foreigner to use the NHS and hand out benefits to any tom dick or harry who turn up on our shores and hand out vast quantitkes of money to foreigners who cant make trip here for other reasons they seem proud they invite foreigners in to take jobs our unemployed could be forced to take

Edited January 10, 2013 by chesters1