in or out

[barry luxton]

No Barry he was not elected by the unelected he was elected by the heads of state of every country in the union, including our own PM.

not with a mandate from the taxpayers, this is what you are missing, it's called democrocy, that's what the e u don't understand, permanent president, sounds to me just like a sadham hussain democrocy

[captain cojones]

not with a mandate from the taxpayers, this is what you are missing, it's called democrocy, that's what the e u don't understand, permanent president, sounds to me just like a sadham hussain democrocy

 

But you give your leader a mandate when you vote. Are you suggesting that they consult "taxpayers" on every question? What is the point of government if they dont have a mandate?

[corydoras]

I was joking Corydoras, reading it back now I can see it does not across quite as intended...

I was almost sure it was a joke, just wanted to be sure.

[barry luxton]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/06/david-cameron-ukip-nigel-farage_n_2419605.html

 

Here is the Huffington that you likev with their report on it.

 

He made the comments the first time on live radio...BBC radio London?

yes, thanks for the link link: http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/ukip%E2%80%99s-nigel-farage-named-top-uk-politician-of-2012

[barry luxton]

But you give your leader a mandate when you vote. Are you suggesting that they consult "taxpayers" on every question? What is the point of government if they dont have a mandate?

no there was only ever one question. brown got it wrong and cameron followed suit, in or out, thats not a lot to ask for is it. Cameron even gave the libs thier referendum, yet this one has gone through two admins and still they are scared sh$$$tless to offer one up, why's that, don't they trust the electorate.

[captain cojones]

yes, thanks for the link link: http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/ukip%E2%80%99s-nigel-farage-named-top-uk-politician-of-2012

 

 

Cheers. i did note the comment at the bottom of the poll though "Not scientifically valid" (cheap shot)

[captain cojones]

, why's that, don't they trust the electorate.

 

probably they realise that with the press you have," the electorate" will never be intelligently informed.

[corydoras]

You dont grasp it do you Cory.

 

As for your jingoistic remark i do not think we are a country that is superior to others. If your not patriotic, nothing i can do about that now is there, i certainly would not try and force ( like you often do ) my opinions upon you.

You and you pathetic assumptions yet again Cory

I am as patriotic as the next man Andrew, but I don't find songs that include verses like the one below particularly inspiring even if they are ignored as if they never existed these days;

 

Lord, grant that Marshal Wade,

May by thy mighty aid,

Victory bring.

May he sedition hush,

and like a torrent rush,

Rebellious Scots to crush,

God save the King.

 

How would you convince workers in the Nissan factory and their cleints The Port of Tyne plus the employees of all the other companies in the hinterland that depend on the Nissan factory for their orders that leaving the EU was in their long term interests and also a patriotic thing to do? I'm waiting with bated breathe for a well framed rational, informed response but none seems to be fortcoming.

Edited January 17, 2013 by corydoras

[Andrew]

Again you cannot grasp my reply to that individual can you ?

 

And furthermore i dont like your insinuations with that jingoistic remark.

Edited January 17, 2013 by Andrew

[barry luxton]

Dear barry luxton

 

Hasn't 2012 been a remarkable year for UKIP and our cause? Second place in two by-elections; and by the end of the year 16 per cent of voters saying they were ready to vote for UKIP, and a full 40 per cent saying they might. Our arguments drive the mainstream political debate today and will be on show again as I appear on the panel of BBC1's Question Time tonight at 10:35PM.

 

The Westminster political media elite, and the European machine, have had to sit up and take note. What an opportunity we have now. We've earned it, and we should seize it.

 

I am making 2013 a National Campaign Year. We will focus on the Council Elections across England on 2 May, fighting the vast majority of seats and targeting areas heavily to achieve breakthroughs. We will mount a national advertising campaign to both boost our election results and build membership. And I will be undertaking a Campaign Tour across a large part of the country.

 

There is a strong, and sombre reason for mounting a national campaign this year. Our country faces a looming threat:

• On January 1st 2014, the UK will open its door to unlimited numbers of people from Romania and Bulgaria.
• 29 million people will be entitled to come here - not just to work, but to take advantage of our benefits, housing, schools and health services.
• 50% of Bulgarians live in real poverty; while Romania has major social problems. Both countries suffer from institutionalised crime and an unstable grip on democracy and the law.

If we're going to keep the National Health Service free; prevent house-builders from concreting over the countryside; and protect our pensioners and our young people seeking work, something must be done.

 

To make this National Campaign successful will take drive, volunteers and money. We have the drive, and the willing volunteers. I ask you therefore to think what you can give, so that we can get this vital message out and put the maximum pressure on the government to stop the next great wave of immigration. We have twelve months.

 

 

Yours sincerely,

Nigel Farage MEP

UKIP Leader

 

PS: Don't forget to tune in to BBC1's Question Time at 10:35PM tonight where I will be featuring on the panel.