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Hmmm...

 

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4751839/Save-Keith-the-seal-petition.html

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Worms
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I meant on the Keith the seal page Barry!

Ken L
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The backpeddaling by the AT is a waste of time. They have done irreparable damage to angling and the image of anglers. This is a short version of the damning article from a local paper in Birmingham y

Anderoo
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More like simple minded...   I put the link up as it's relevant to the debate - a high profile angler with a media platform saying the seal should be shot to stop it eating fish.

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A lot of ill-linformed comments, heavily weighted in favour of the seal. If it were a four legged carnivorous beastie like a bear or tiger I wonder what the reaction would be :hypocrite:

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Several years ago, while fishing the river Wharfe, (about 60 miles from the sea), a seal popped up in my swim, and stayed to look at me for a while. It was one of several over the years that had found itself so far inland. it stayed for a few weeks, then was gone. After it had left, surprise, surprise, there were still fish to catch! as there had been after all the previous visits over the years.

The publicity surrounding this situation, will do more damage to the future of angling, than a few dozen seals ever could.

We talk of the ignorance, and stupidity of the general public when it comes to 'cute and cuddley', but anglers are just as guilty when it comes to our quarry. The cries of "it's out of it's natural area and causing damage to the fish stocks", is a load of BS. Seals have come inland from time to time for as long as I can remember, and I have no reason to doubt, for much, much, longer than that. It will stay a while then go. Something that can't be said of the mass stocking of carp etc, that escape into the surrounding waters, and impact on the indigenous species.

But they are fish aren't they? So that's alright then. Talk about hypocracy!

 

John.

Angling is more than just catching fish, if it wasn't it would just be called 'catching'......... John

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The Angling Trust has rather predictably shot itself in the foot on this one.

Playing the "It's eating our fish so we're going to have it shot" card was always going to be a PR disaster.

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Species caught in 2019: Pike. Bream. Tench. Chub. Common Carp. European Eel. Barbel. Bleak. Dace.

Species caught in 2018: Perch. Bream. Rainbow Trout. Brown Trout. Chub. Roach. Carp. European Eel.

Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp.

Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullien's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak.

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This is bizarre. Wildlife has always been present on the banks around us, It's one seal. OK, she is going to feed whilst there, but the likelyhood is that it will return to the sea before long. Why should these idiots have not turned it around to our advantage and said that all would be well inevitably?

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This is bizarre. Wildlife has always been present on the banks around us, It's one seal. OK, she is going to feed whilst there, but the likelyhood is that it will return to the sea before long. Why should these idiots have not turned it around to our advantage and said that all would be well inevitably?

 

Absolutely. An angling and conservation organisation that captures and removes the seal for it's own safety (Seals don't do well when in freshwater for long periods and it's likely to injure itself trying to negotiate weirs now that the levels have dropped) might actually get some positive press for once. Instead they threaten to shoot an animal which doubled Bewdley's visitor numbers when it was present in the town and which is universally considered cute and cudly. Idiots !

Species caught in 2020: Barbel. European Eel. Bleak. Perch. Pike.

Species caught in 2019: Pike. Bream. Tench. Chub. Common Carp. European Eel. Barbel. Bleak. Dace.

Species caught in 2018: Perch. Bream. Rainbow Trout. Brown Trout. Chub. Roach. Carp. European Eel.

Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp.

Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullien's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak.

Species caught in 2015: Brown Trout. Roach. Bream. Terrapin. Eel. Barbel. Pike. Chub.

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The Birmingham Mail's in on the act already...There's not anything more I can add to what has already been said on here so far....I think I predicted the balls-ups that would come from our "National Body" a couple of years ago... :doh:

 

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/keith-the-stray-seal-in-bewdley-could-1222881

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Moderator school isn't what it used to be. I still remember packing your dinner every day, making sure you'd tucked your shirt into your shorts and done your laces up properly, giving you 10p for the tuck shop and seeing you through the gates.

 

And for what? :D

 

Omnipotence, apparently B)

 

 

The Ruddy Duck isn't native to the UK, and isn't in any immediate danger in its natural range, so what's the problem? Indeed, well done, the species is no longer here. The cull was judged necessary to protect the genetic integrity of a threatened European species, doesn't matter if a few people who didn't understand objected.

Got nowt to do with being "all knowing", more about having the judgement not to make nonsensical statements.

 

Still plenty of them around on the continent, and Spain still has a problem with them as far as I know, so eradicating them from the British Isles was a great success :)

John S

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Species caught in 2013: Beech, Elder, Hawthorn, Oak, Right Earlobe, Scots Pine.

Species caught in 2012: Ash, Aspen, Beech, Big Nasty Stinging Nettle, Birch, Copper Beech, Grey Willow, Holly, Hazel, Oak, Wasp Nest (that was a really bad day), White Poplar.
Species caught in 2011: Blackthorn, Crab Apple, Elder, Fir, Hawthorn, Horse Chestnut, Oak, Passing Dog, Rowan, Sycamore, Willow.
Species caught in 2010: Ash, Beech, Birch, Elder, Elm, Gorse, Mullberry, Oak, Poplar, Rowan, Sloe, Willow, Yew.

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