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is there a need for the trust to act as a middle man, go between with the local ifcas. With the age of computer it's takes milliseconds for anyone who wishes to contact the ifcas direct without the need for a errrrm helping hand. Can't see the point or the need.

 

Or is this part of the master plan to offer the ifcas a new level of management for the rsa when it comes to offering volunteer bailiffs to police the rsa when the ifcas have put in place all the nice new by laws to beat the rsa up with.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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ohh dear, this hasn't gone down too well with the whole of the original angling trust sea committee, new approach needed and wondering if some others need to fall on their swords.

 

copy from wsf: Here is a copy of a letter I have just received. make of it what you will.

Dear Mark,

I am writing this letter on behalf of the members of the North East Region of the Angling Trust (Marine) to inform you that the whole Committee of the Region are tendering their resignation from the North East Region.

This is because of the underhand tactic of the Angling Trust in the way the Region has been undermined by them. You have acted behind our backs in holding meetings with the Northern Federation of Sea Angling Societies and we had to be informed by a third party and were still excluded from the meeting. We still feel that we should have been included in the meeting. Then we were told that the Angling Trust were going to form a Northumberland Region, again we found out from a third party. The Committee were unhappy about this and I informed you that we intended to resign and you assured us that it was not your intention to break up the North East Region and we nominated one of our members to liaise with the IFCA. We then thought that this was the end of the matter.

The next incident was when Les Weller informed a member of our Committee that David Mitchell telephoned him and had asked him to form a Northumberland Region. When we queried this we received a letter from Jo Hyde explaining that you wanted to create regions that matched the IFCA's. We wrote back to Jo Hyde giving our reasons that the Region should not be altered and this was put to the board, who "surprisingly" ignored our comments and went with the Angling Trust's decision to form a Northumberland Region.

We were not informed of the decision made by the board until I contacted you and you arranged for us to be informed. We were then told that the North East Region will be from the River Tyne to the Humber, taking in all of Yorkshire, an area where you cannot manage to get volunteers form a Region.

We are totally against The Angling Trust's actions and the way it goes back on agreements made just 2 years ago shows how untrustworthy the Angling Trust are and comments were made that if the Angling Trust want rid of the North East Region, a Region that has been in existence for 25 + years, initially with the National Federation of Sea Anglers and then with the Angling Trust, then let them go ahead and break us up. The nearest IFCA to the North East Region is Blyth, the next closest is Bridlington in Yorkshire and therefore the IFCA we have a representative on is the most appropriate for the North East Region.

We feel that the Angling Trust could put more effort into resurrecting the Yorkshire Region and other areas that do not have Regions rather than riding roughshod over a successfully working Region and breaking it up. All of the competitions we have organised have been in Northumberland except for the Crab Competitions which are in Tyne & Wear. When we ran the Angling Trust National Shore Competition it was held in Northumberland and Cleveland.

We cannot understand how you can have "volunteers" to run a Northumberland Region without advertising for volunteers and if you have it is another sign of the Angling Trusts devious behavior and attitude towards its members. We understand that Les Weller has asked members of Amble Angling Club for volunteers with no success. It seems strange to us that a member and the "Legal Arm" of another group (Northern Federation of Sea Angling Societies), a group who do not want to be part of the Angling Trust, should be setting up a Region that is already covered satisfactorily by the North East Region. There are only 2 Angling Clubs in Northumberland to our knowledge as the Angling Trust cannot tell us of the clubs in the Region (quoting the Data Protection Act, however on one occasion sent me details of every Angling Trust member in the country), who are members and one of those 2 clubs in Northumberland is represented on our committee.

To conclude, we are all in agreement that we have been left with no option to resign our positions on the Committee of the Angling Trust North East Region (Marine). I will personally write to all of the Angling Publications that I can to inform them and anglers of the actions the Angling Trust and its attitude towards its members who are volunteers and have run a run a successful Region for over 25 years, initially with the National Federation of Sea Anglers and then with the Angling Trust. I am sure that our Chairman, Sam Harris, who is an Angling Journalist, will also make his comments known, as will the other Committee members.

Yours,

Peter Mantle
Ex - Regional Secretary
on behalf of Sam Harris, Frank Smith, Pat Smith, Jimmy French, Jimmy Moody, Andrew Burton, Alan Brown, John Fairbridge, Tim Anslow, Jeff Elliott

Edited by barry luxton

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Rather a petulant and indignant letter which doesn't give much idea of their complaint. Is there a response from the AT? A storm in a teacup? It always surprises me how hostile many anglers - one presumes they're anglers - are to the Angling Trust (and also the EA).

 

A bit of schadenfreude for you Barry, but pretty insignificant if one can judge anything from this.

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Rather a petulant and indignant letter which doesn't give much idea of their complaint. Is there a response from the AT? A storm in a teacup? It always surprises me how hostile many anglers - one presumes they're anglers - are to the Angling Trust (and also the EA).

 

A bit of schadenfreude for you Barry, but pretty insignificant if one can judge anything from this.

here's the normal semi apologetic letter following. It's the devil in the detail in this instance, 25 years of voluntary input wasted at a stroke. Now as the letter tells all they will be replaced by the company insiders who will toe the line or else and sea angling in that area will be devalued and used as a political tool by the trust and their wants. What the man failed to tell all, it's about funding. the trust have been paid to set up committees in areas the same as the ifcas. Looks like they didn't fit the funding.

 

. The reply from Mark Lloyd.

 

Dear Peter,

Thank you for letting me know and we will make appropriate arrangements to organise a new marine regional meeting in the North East for Angling Trust members.

Thank you for what you and your colleagues have done to contribute positively to the Angling Trust and the NFSA before it for the good of angling and I’m sorry that you have chosen to resign because of our policy of sub-dividing the region to make it more relevant to the statutory IFCA boundaries and more feasible for anglers to attend meetings in a region of relevance to them.

I wish you and the rest of the committee all the best,

 

By devaluing, I have to point out the trust has around 3,000 individual sea anglers spread throughout. Now there's a heck of a lot more sea anglers who won't or don't share the company ethos, so there really ain't a need for yet another committee, you would have to agree on that by the amount of members the trust will be reaching out to 'help' in that area.

Edited by barry luxton

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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I still find it hard to see what all the fuss is about. Seems to be all over the way a region is organised. Committees of anglers often end up bickering. I don't read anything sinister into it though. Perhaps they should get together to discuss things instead of getting huffy.

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