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Commercial Fisheries they can't all be bad, can they?


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I find it's the same as the difference between a fast food and a sit down restaurant. You pays for what you want. Unless it's a free water, all others are commercial n'est-ce pas

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The last time i fished a commercial was about five years ago and it was Tanyards. I fished the coarse lake and had lots of Pumpkin seeds and small tench. I did get a better tench about 5lb, but it looked like it had had a hard life. Not much of a bottom jaw and I think its back had been broken with a nasty looking kink in it.

 

I was sat on a causeway and the lake behind me had carp in it with a few people fishing it with carp gear and mulitple rods, alarms, ........ , but they didn't seem to be catch much. Anyway the coarse lake wasn't floating my boat so I chucked some pellets in the margin of the carp lake behind me. Within a few minutes it was like a pan of boiling water and on the float gear it was a carp a chuck. There wasn't anything fancy about what i was doing,but in a little over a hour i probably had a dozen carp for around 100lb (I think some of the other lakes had bigger fish in them).

 

Most of the other anglers came round to find out what i was doing to be catching fish, but all went back to sit behind their carp rods. I don't think they had a float between them.

 

For me there is a lot more to fishing than catching fish and if its to easy and set up it gets boring. Give me a wild water and a bit of a challenge any time.

 

ps. If the plants are doing well at Tanyards, it might be because I'm a country lad and did bother looking for the posh loo's. :-)

 

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All,

 

I think Lutra has a good point. An opinion after a 5 year absence about something as competative and dynamic as commercial fisheries is about as usful as my comments on UK rivers.

 

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The only times I have ever fished commercials is when team matches have been held on one of them and I had no choice; because I didn't want to to let the team down;. I would then fish practice sessions on the commercial before the day of the match.

 

But outside of team matches;, I much prefer to fish in more natural surroundings in a lake or river with more natural stock levels where the challenge is to catch fish in their natural environment; and shoals of hungry pasties all queuing up to take your bait under a pellet waggler is virtually unknown.

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All,

 

I think Lutra has a good point. An opinion after a 5 year absence about something as competative and dynamic as commercial fisheries is about as usful as my comments on UK rivers.

 

Phone

And my point was?

 

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Lutra,

 

I took it to be - """The last time i fished a commercial was about five years ago and it was Tanyards""""

 

Was it something else?

 

BoldBear,

 

Other than "in the water" what is a fishes natural environment? The only sin commercials (over here) commit is over stocking - - - WAY over stocking. And, I would agree if you suggest that overall they, commercials, attract a "less competent" group of anglers. In our situation eventhough it is C&R, the "pond boss" has to replace 4 - 5 thousand pounds of fish every year because of angler incompetence.

 

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The closest thing to a commercial I've fished regularly is a small stillwater trout fishery - small water, nice facilities, artificial fishing for farmed foreign fish. Feels a bit fake, but enjoyable enough, and until they meet someone not on a C&R ticket and get clonked, better welfare standards than your average match lake pastie gets.

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Lutra,

 

I took it to be - """The last time i fished a commercial was about five years ago and it was Tanyards""""

 

Was it something else?

 

Phone

So your saying because I've not fished a commercial that was Tanyards for five years, You think I shouldn't be saying """The last time i fished a commercial was about five years ago and it was Tanyards"""".

 

And I thought I was good at writing sh1t. Your way better Phone.

 

 

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Feels a bit fake,.

Sums it up.

 

Back in the "noughties" I joined an outfit where you paid £500 and could fish for rainbow trout as often and for as long as you liked, or OTOH fish short sessions as infrequently as you liked - either way, whatever caught was knocked off your ticket at so much a pound. When ticket was used up you just bought another ticket. Cheaper in the long run than buying day tickets.

 

I elected to fish two-hour sessions two or thee times a week. Began to fill the freezer, give fish to neighbours, swap fish for venison from a deer-shooting friend, send everything over 8lb for cold smoking (they stocked triploids by now).............

 

.......bought a second freezer, adopted a policy of filleting and storing fillets instead of whole fish (there was an input from my sea-fishing activities as well) Still the triploid madness had me in its grip (catching doubles often, up to 21 lb) , and I was getting an insight into the problems that led to the downfall of Fred West - what to do with the bodies.

 

Norma did some back-of-an-envelope calculations and advised me to make hay while the sun shone, ie fill the freezers to capacity, as she could see no way that the fishery owner could make a long-term profit, So it proved - the fishery went bust, as did several other stillwater trout fisheries in the area. There were now a few spaces in the freezers for bass, Dover sole, venison, caviar and the like.

 

I think the novelty wore off for many - there is an illusion of skill in catching three or four big rainbows in a short session, whereas in fact they are so much easier than even a modest one-pound fly-caught trout from a natural water. On a small still water, a fish is never far from your fly - not quite shooting fish in a barrel, but some way down that road. Once you recognise that illusion, the end of your still-water rainbow fishing is not far away. Many hyped-up game fishing magazines (and their readers) have not yet reached that stage, so a few fisheries survive. Occasionally I might visit one of those surviving fisheries (the last time was about five years ago) but that last time found they were stocking big browns - caught some up to nine pounds, but found them uneatable - not been back since.

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The last time i fished a commercial was about five years ago .

I think Phone is trying to say that commercials have made significant "progress" during that time so your views are out of date.

 

Welcome to the club

 

 

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