Dodgy Logic

[Sportsman]

This is kind of what I meant (badly edited and out of context but I hope Kiri doesn't mind!).

 

When I've done this kind of fishing there has barely been enough time in the day to get all the stuff done that needs doing. It is exhausting, certainly no time to sit around twiddling thumbs being bored out of your mind!

 

On the second point, I bet that expanse of water was anything but featureless - working that bit out, exploring the topography properly, finding features, baiting accurately, casting accurately, that's where most of the the hard work and the skill is. But granted, not everyone's idea of fun.

 

5 fish in 30 acres is going to be difficult but it's not impossible. If it was me, I'd spend as much time as I thought necessary mapping out the water and finding out what I could about their habits and behaviour before even thinking about fishing for them. A very interesting challenge!

The problem isn't so much catching sturgeon , it is not catching carp. Don't want any of those 40lb nuisance fish

[Dales]

The problem isn't so much catching sturgeon , it is not catching carp. Don't want any of those 40lb nuisance fish

Other then the 40lb Carp, what other nuisance fish are likely to be present?

 

Maybe fish half a tin of meat or big chunk of Mackeral but they might get whittled down by small fish.

 

Super sized boilies?

[Sportsman]

I'm hoping my 30mm 50% fishmeal boilies or maybe a couple of 25mm halibut pellets will do it.

The last time I used my fishmeal boilies after sturgeon I ended up with a nuisance 100lb catfish

[Anderoo]

Speaking of dodgy logic, I've just got some mini method feeders which pride themselves on being 'safe'. The swivels provided are such a tight fit that if you did snap off there is absolutely no way a fish could pull it out; I can just manage it with my fingers. It's about as 'safe' as gluing the swivel in or sticking a few split shot above the feeder but because it meets the technical description of what's OK these days you can use it as provided and feel good about yourself

[Dales]

I'm hoping my 30mm 50% fishmeal boilies or maybe a couple of 25mm halibut pellets will do it.The last time I used my fishmeal boilies after sturgeon I ended up with a nuisance 100lb catfish

I think I would stick with those boilies.

[RUDD]

An interesting thread but alas some do not understand that any type of angling could be classed as Trapping as we all use hooks with a BAIT.

Dodgy logic - any logic is better than none.

I use semi fixed bolt rigs/ method feeders and boilies for many species, sometimes so I can sit and read, watch the wildlife or just to sit back and relax - its my choice and I could not give a hoot what anyone else thinks.

[gozzer]

An interesting thread but alas some do not understand that any type of angling could be classed as Trapping as we all use hooks with a BAIT.

Dodgy logic - any logic is better than none.

I use semi fixed bolt rigs/ method feeders and boilies for many species, sometimes so I can sit and read, watch the wildlife or just to sit back and relax - its my choice and I could not give a hoot what anyone else thinks.

 

You sound like you're going very defensive there Rudd.

I can only speak for myself, and when I say 'trapping', I mean leaving a bait unattended, for the fish to hook itself. Maybe it's because of my match fishing background, (but you've done your share of that as well). As you know you are not allowed to leave your peg with a baited hook in the water, unattended. That means no wandering to chat to someone at another peg, or having a kip a few yards up the bank. There's a big difference between being by your rod, and watching TV, or being fast asleep in a 'tent' several yards away. Surely you can see a difference.

Like you say it's your choice, just as it's mine to not do it, each to there own.

 

John.

[Steve Burke]

I know that wandering off from rods is common practice on quite a lot of waters, even when its strictly speaking not allowed. However I have a very strict rule on Wingham that all runs must be hit within 10 seconds. 3 members were caught too far away from their rods and immediately lost their tickets.

[kirisute]

Good for you Steve!

I regularly pull up holiday makers and club members ( our carp lake is rented from a farm that has holiday homes and fushing access to it) for leaving rods un attended, either as they fiddle on the bank behind them, talk to someone in the next swim, go for a **** of whatever! Even waggler fishing I've seen rods go in...let alone ledger fishing etc.

I've had rods pulled from my hands even as I've held them loosely in my lap whilst I fiddled with bait or whatever and was momentarily distracted....it's so quick it's almost un believable!

But few people realise how quick it can and does happen.

In the end it's each to their own....as long as fishery rules are adhered too and you accept if you break them your gonna lose your rights to fish!

[RUDD]

You sound like you're going very defensive there Rudd.

I can only speak for myself, and when I say 'trapping', I mean leaving a bait unattended, for the fish to hook itself. Maybe it's because of my match fishing background, (but you've done your share of that as well). As you know you are not allowed to leave your peg with a baited hook in the water, unattended. That means no wandering to chat to someone at another peg, or having a kip a few yards up the bank. There's a big difference between being by your rod, and watching TV, or being fast asleep in a 'tent' several yards away. Surely you can see a difference.

Like you say it's your choice, just as it's mine to not do it, each to there own.

 

John.

Yes I can see the difference but anglers not being in control of tackle happens every day:

An angler is using two rods and hooks a decent fish on one - when playing this fish is he/she is not in control of the other rod?

A pleasure angler is fishing a waggler but also with a snide ledger rod out beside them, only one rod is under control at any time - add in pouring out a cuppa from a flask and there are none.

 

Ok back to trapping - we are trying to CATCH a fish, there are two ways to catch something - with your hands or with a trap