Two-Tone (again)

[Wordbender]

poledark:

Alibee, you are talking rubbish, you are wrong on all counts....I know because I fish there.

 

Den

Not like you to be so abrupt, Den.

 

Bad day, mate?

 

All the best.

 

Terry

[Peter Waller]

Allibee, you and Wordbender can only be a few miles apart! Never mind !

[Guest allibee]

Hi chaps

 

I was also alluding to fish like Steve Pags close season fishy and fish like the black mirror who, although breaks no records, there is no close season as there is no season as she shouldn't legally be fished for at all being part of a nature reserve. So if she was a 69lber and was caught, weighed and witnessed, would she be disallowed because she shouldn't be fished for?

 

In some people's eyes she would stand and in others she wouldn't, but the true record lays with us individually and how we perceive such pieces of paper ... which is what it really boils down to.

[Peter Waller]

Which takes us back to Tommy Morgans record pike! Or to the European records that IGFA don't regognise as world records because they were caught on set lines, albeit setlines attached to a rod!

[trent.barbeler]

Dear All,

 

On a personal basis, I can't wait for barbel to grow to excess of sixty pounds mesen.

 

Chug off downstream to the area known to retain said fish, catch her, then tie her up to the boat for a tow back home. Think of all the money saved on fuel for all those re-captured trips back up river? Now there’s a thought for M'a Lord Waller to consider if they Broads pike get much bigger!!

 

Incidentally, millions of fish of all species get caught over and over again day in day out from all manner of venues where fish live right across the country. Tiddler roach in farm ponds to slab sized bream in lake and gravel pit, the list is literally endless. So why then, feel the desire to single out the handful of seasonal re-captures of just one fish? Doesn't make a lot of sense in the wider scheme of coarse angling things surely?

 

And when one looks at this logically, very few amongst us would ever go fishing again if we were truly concerned about re-captures either known or unknown. To single out criticism aimed towards big fish (monster fish) recaptures when billions of lesser fish get recaptured far more strikes me as quite odd.

 

Regards,

 

Lee.

[GlennB]

trent.barbeler:

To single out criticism aimed towards big fish (monster fish) recaptures when billions of lesser fish get recaptured far more strikes me as quite odd.

I don't think it's recapture that's at issue Lee - it's getting excited about the exact weight upon recapture when all that's really happened since last capture is that the fish ate 2 loaves of bread and a pile of stale boilies that were chucked in the margins. And possibly a lamb korma and 2 chicken dansaks.

[Peter Waller]

I think that you have missed the point Lee! Rare for you!!

 

Of course fish get caught and recaught. The point being that the carp record will, somewhat predictably, fall atleast once more this year! It really has become a 'so what' occurence, and that is a great shame. Find a big fish, keep feeding it and it will get bigger, and inevitably someone else will take a turn at being the record holder! Boringly predictable! There is, to my warped way of seeing things, vastly more credit in breaking the gudgeon record than there is in breaking the carp record!

[trent.barbeler]

Dearest Peter,

 

I missed nothing mesun, you did.

 

I know of an endless amounts of "known" fish from a huge list of species that get targetted right throughout the year right across the country by anglers hoping that said fish have put on a few more ounces or pounds. This is the "reality" and very existence of what we know of as the specialist angling world. Or indeed, the single species world which covers many species and thousands of known venues. So one fish, in this case a very large carp, still doesn't give rise for getting alarmed when its just one of a massive list of known fish that get targetted for their hopeful weight increase. And this is definitely NOT restricted to carp, pike or barbel fishing.

 

As I said, the wider picture consisting of re-captures in a coarse angling sense is well, massive. And from a specialist angling point of view is well, simply put, remains the very existence of what specialist angling is all about?

 

Noticably, no one rushes in to criticise the constant re-captures of known tench, bream, chub, roach, crucian carp, rudd, perch, ect that all receive the same amount of attention from anglers hoping to catch said fish at bigger weights?

 

Added to which, the carp boys have perhaps an unrivalled reputation when it comes to species protection and preservation. In this regard particularly, the CS has done sterling work.

 

Regards,

 

Lee.

 

[ 08. July 2004, 08:00 PM: Message edited by: trent.barbeler ]

[GlennB]

trent.barbeler:

Noticably, no one rushes in to criticise the constant re-captures of known tench, bream, chub, roach, crucian carp, rudd, perch, ect that all receive the same amount of attention from anglers hoping to catch said fish at bigger weights?

Sorry to butt in on a private dispute Lee, but is there a record roach or rudd out there that anglers are constantly targetting in the hope of getting a 'record'? Where are these beasties? How many times have they been caught? How would anyone know? How many times has the roach record been broken in the last several years?

[Peter Waller]

Or the gudgeon record for that matter?