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All,

 

Rusty, seriously, pay attention to detail and don't just slop some stuff together. I think it is important to remember 5% of carp fishermen catch 80% of the fish. Accident??

 

English Matchmen can probably tell similar stories.

 

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Anderoo
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Andy, any chance you could post a few bottles of loch katrine water to rusty? Could be an edge...

Steve Walker
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It might be missing the homeopathic dose of Andy's wee, though.

Andy Macfarlane
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I'm thinking I might just send him a bottle of wee and he can dri....sorry....make it up to whatever strength he desires....

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This is an interesting topic, and it has raised a couple of questions for me:

 

1. Would pouring a glass of tapwater (same temperature as the lake water) into your baited swim have any effect on fish?

2. When boilies are made either at home in small amounts or commercially in huge amounts, what type of water is used in the boiling process?

 

Any ideas?

And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music

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Also, does your house have a water softener, and do you use softened or unsoftened :unsure::unsure:

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Very interesting questions Anderoo but unfortunatly I do not know the answer to either. However if you subscribe to the theory around washed out baits and give your boilies a good steep in lake water, then it would make perfect sense if you made your own to boil them in the water they are intended to be used in.

 

Question 1 puzzles me more as I struggle to see the how such a small amount of water would have a good or bad effect in a huge body of water which would suggest that mixing at home would have no effect good or bad. Another however from keeping fish just adding tap water to a tank can have a huge effect on the fish BUT even a small cup of tap water in a tank is a major percentage of the water compared to a pond or lake. A bucket of water straight from the tap poured in to an african cichlid tank will spur them in to life and encourage them to feed hard not so good on South American species.

 

I am not swayed either way on whether tap water is good or bad as we deliberatly tamper with the contents of bait adding flavours, salt etc and so doubt the impurities in tap water would have a big enough negative effect to worry about it. I do belief washed out baits work well but I think this is more to do with the look and softness of the baits as much as the taste or smell from being in the water a long time.

 

 

 

 

 

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Personally I wouldn't for the simple reason that I have then got to carry heavy wet groundbait in a bucket to the venue and then around the lake to my chosen swim. Not having a barrow means I have to carry it and arrive in more of a sweaty heap than usual. Steve's suggestion of hemp water is a good one though - I have my own secret additive concerning which Steve is sworn to secrecy having spotted me adding it at the recent breamfest.

 

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The reasons for the questions were:

 

1. What precisely is it in tapwater that could be offputting to fish?

2. Once groundbait is mixed with tapwater, do the substances in Q.1 get absorbed into the bait itself, or remain in the water/moisture?

 

Which then leads to:

 

IF there are identifiable substances in tapwater that are offputting to fish, that only matters if they get transferred from the water to the bait itself. If they remain in the water/moisture, they will just dissipate immediately once the groundbait is in the lake.

 

That's the reason I asked about boilies, as in that case the substances will remain in the bait itself mush longer, whether they are absorbed by the bait or just remain in the moisture.

 

Unless the offputting nature of those substances is neutralised by the boiling process!

And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music

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Matthew raises a good point. I don't know about anyone else, but all the hemp (plus other particles) I've ever prepared have been boiled in tapwater!

And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music

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The only thing I can imagine might be off-putting is chlorine. Boiling tapwater will drive off chlorine, and free chlorine will react with organic matter. There isn't going to be any left in your boiled hemp, nor I suspect in your pre-mixed groundbait after it has been sat for a while. The compounds formed when chlorine reacts with organic matter may be detectable by fish, but I doubt they would care.

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Cheers Steve - so Rusty, it looks like the botom line is yes you can use tapwater to prepare your groundbait in advance (boil it first if you're worried about the chlorine), but it will be heavier to carry ;)

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