and the winner is:

[kirisute]

lol! epic!

[Vagabond]

I voted to join

There goes an honest man !

 

,,,but, you seem to have changed your mind

 

Post 3 (19-4-14) of The Yanks are Coming (this forum)

 

You said then that you "will very likely give UKIP a vote" ..."just to wake the others up" which suggests you are not entirely happy with the result of your original "Yes" vote

 

Patronising ? Well, all I can say is that I saw the present shambles that is today's EU coming a long time ago, which is why I voted "No" at the time. I thought I was right then, and nothing that has happened since has led me to change my mind. Yes, I know the phrase "I told you so" is annoying, but from your declared voting intentions it looks like deep down, you agree with me.

 

We can employ cheap foreign labour whether we are in the EU or not (look at the Mexicans employed in the Southern USA in defiance of immigration laws), but the rights or wrongs of doing so are another issue.

[chesters1]

Oh dear oh dear! Just to help you out a bit Dave, I voted to join and so did the majority if I remember it correctly.

 

I could say I know a few who are in favour of staying in, and as for the "patronising attitude" then perhaps you should reread your very patronising...indeed it could be termed insulting post. I am not a fool, who is easily lead, no more than all the millions who voted to join in the first place.

 

Living in a predomitably farming area I also meet a lot of farmers who are very happy to employ immigrants at very low wages, how they must agonise about leaving the EU and losing all that cheap labour I talked with one yesterday and asked him what he would do, and he said " I will diversify".........rip out the fruit trees and run sheep or cattle or even plough up and go arable, so either way he would still be "allright mate " just have to pay a bit more for your food (smug smile)

 

Den

Den you opted to join a common market with free borders not a huge unelected mess where the leaders have absolute power and the elected people we (you) voted in have very little

[rob.imk2]

I was too young to vote in 73 but remember the tv reports of produce being ploughed back into the ground so it was worth growing for the producers

[chesters1]

Its still being plowed back in ,not because its so plentiful its cheap but to artificially keep the price high ,and ofcourse theres plenty of EU handouts for growing it

[rob.imk2]

Its still being plowed back in ,not because its so plentiful its cheap but to artificially keep the price high ,and ofcourse theres plenty of EU handouts for growing it

I thought thats what I meant lol

[poledark]

One (only one ) of the reasons I voted for the EU was because I considered we would all be a bit safer if we were "all on the same side" I still consider that a valid reason.

 

I was "bombed out" 3 times during the last war, pretty certain it was the reason my Mum got cancer, and no way did I ever want to live through another war...............there is something a bit special in "not actually hearing the explosion that ripped the top of the house off"

 

A quick question..."do you think that England (not the UK ) would survive as a prosperous country outside the EU ? " It's only "the city" which keeps us afloat at the moment. What's the betting they would move to Brussels if we left the EU.

 

For good or worse, we are all a lot safer in than out.

 

Den

 

Edit.. "just to wake the others up" is probably what a lot of other people did as well. the real test will come at the next UK elections. I actually ended up voting Lib Dem, the only party to state that they would stay in the EU.. I knew they had no chance of winning, but I had to vote with what I considered to be the best for myself and family.

Edited May 27, 2014 by poledark

[barry luxton]

One (only one ) of the reasons I voted for the EU was because I considered we would all be a bit safer if we were "all on the same side" I still consider that a valid reason.

 

I was "bombed out" 3 times during the last war, pretty certain it was the reason my Mum got cancer, and no way did I ever want to live through another war...............there is something a bit special in "not actually hearing the explosion that ripped the top of the house off"

 

A quick question..."do you think that England (not the UK ) would survive as a prosperous country outside the EU ? " It's only "the city" which keeps us afloat at the moment. What's the betting they would move to Brussels if we left the EU.

 

For good or worse, we are all a lot safer in than out.

 

Den

Personally I think the e u is the cause of today's problems in particular with it's open door policies. 2 million where let in during the last admin, good or bad, there was no discrimination between the two as to who where allowed in. That's not even speaking about the illegals that also came over, I don't know how many are still here or have been given amnesty. So thanks to the e u I feel a lot more unsafe and it also feels as if the u k is fit to burst with regards to coping and providing services etc.

Edited May 27, 2014 by barry luxton

[Steve Walker]

I think the EU will find itself at war with someone sooner or later.

[gozzer]

I think the EU will find itself at war with someone sooner or later.

 

It's more than likely to be with itself. Would that be classed as a civil war, or a revolution?

 

John.