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Really? I must have imagined the bits that I'm now quoting for you, then....

 

Sorry guys was reading it before I left for work. Once I looked on the site again, I had seen the information I needed (at work).

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Well, not in the first three lines anyway. Can we take it that you are a teenager? :rolleyes:

 

Sorry my fault for not reading it properly, was in hurry to leave for work. Next time ill reply or read the information when I got time to read it :)

 

As for being a teenager, sorry I'm in my late 20s.

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Kelly, next time it happens, (and it probably will at some time) try to cut the hooks at the bend, if you can reach them.

 

John Roberts deep throat disgorger will help a lot as well.

 

I take it you had neither side wire cutters nor one of Johns disgorgers? If not, then get them before you go piking again (and probably an unhhoking mat as well)

 

Best of all, don't use trebles..........................

 

 

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I take this is Johns disgorger http://www.anytackle.co.uk/fishing_tackle_...?product_id=265

 

I don't have side wire cutters, just normal ones. Would you recommend I get some? I have two forceps 12in (one straight and one with bent tip) and unhooking mats (got one for my Granddad and one for me. Well I brought my self new one and gave the old one for my Granddad to use :) I'm using Chub SNOOPER X-TRA MAT).

 

I think my Granddad going be staying well away from any trebles hooks from now on. As I said in another post he normally uses only single hook.

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Hi all ,first post in this section of the forum having turned to the drinking water from the salt water variety of angling recently, and as a novice pike angler im glad this question has come up.one thing i noticed in the artical is it says never return a pike that still has hooks in it so does this meen dispatch the fish quickly and efficiently as possible and if so how?ive done this on numeras occasions with sea fish when iv'e doubted their chance of survival and for instance know that various technics apply to different species for instance the quickest way to kill a mackeral is to inseret your finger in its mouth and snap its neck(not bash its head on the peir wall like some numptys i regular see).So is there a technique for pike ?Please note this would only be a last reasort and only taken on in the belife that the fish wouldnt survive and in so saving it from slow lingering death. PS are treble hooks realy nessercery when pike -pearch fishing and do single hooks result in less hook ups? if possible ide like to use only singles and barbless to aid unhooking . Mark

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Hi all ,first post in this section of the forum having turned to the drinking water from the salt water variety of angling recently, and as a novice pike angler im glad this question has come up.one thing i noticed in the artical is it says never return a pike that still has hooks in it so does this meen dispatch the fish quickly and efficiently as possible and if so how?ive done this on numeras occasions with sea fish when iv'e doubted their chance of survival and for instance know that various technics apply to different species for instance the quickest way to kill a mackeral is to inseret your finger in its mouth and snap its neck(not bash its head on the peir wall like some numptys i regular see).So is there a technique for pike ?Please note this would only be a last reasort and only taken on in the belife that the fish wouldnt survive and in so saving it from slow lingering death. PS are treble hooks realy nessercery when pike -pearch fishing and do single hooks result in less hook ups? if possible ide like to use only singles and barbless to aid unhooking . Mark

 

 

This is been my experience with my Granddad who 99% time uses single hooks (normally barbed) when using live bait. I've fished with my Granddad on and off for pass 20 years. Single hooks are allot easer to deal with. This year all the pikes my Granddad has caught, the hooks have just ended inside the pike mouth.

 

Down side to using single hooks is you can some time strike too soon, due to the pike not having biting the whole bait yet. He is hooking the bait though the mouth and piecing it though the head of the baited fish.

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This thread is going down that old predictable slope!We will have all the "instant strike" people on their soap boxes next.

 

As an angler who has fished for pike on many different waters and over quitea few years now can I try and put it back into perspective?

 

What we are talking about here isnt anything advanced or new but purely basic pike handling/unhooking.Im my opinion to intentionally targewt pike without first being armed with the correct tools and more importantly the knowledge to safely unhook them is down right irresponsible.Even more so in this modern day where so much help and advice is so freely available.

 

All though all important factors in minimising (note I didnt say avoiding as this is simply nort possible) deep hooking lets put things like being dilligent,using good bite detection and safe rigs etc to one side for the moment.The real issue here is being able to deal with a deep hooked fish quickly and efficiently when it happens.

 

This all starts with simply being able to hold the pike in the correct way! I wont write an in depth description of the technique as there are plenty avaiable.As always the best way to learn is to get a competent piker to show you.

 

The "deep throat" disgorgers are IMO a total waste of time and a very poor alternative to learning how to do it properly.Like single hooks (well in this situation at least) its just a way of avoiding the real issue.You dont want to touch a pike or are scared of them then simply dont fish for them.

 

I dont even rate the need for cutters etc that highly.Yes I do carry them but in all these years have only ever used them twice! once to cut a treble out of my net and the only other time to cut someone elses lost gear out.Not bad in over 30 years of piking.Once again knowing the correct technique is the answer.Jeeze its not rocket science!

And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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With so many questions about pike fishing and unhooking every year, I reckon it would be good to have an article (with plenty of photos) on the main site that we could point people to. Elton, what do you think? Unless any of the specialist pikers out there want to do it I'd be happy to. If I did I'd ask Budgie to check it over before handing it over, if he didn't mind? I actually have a fair bit written already that I was going to use elsewhere but can't because of space constraints.

 

(If there already is one - sorry!)

 

I was going to do a step-by-step unhooking photo sequence at last year's pike fish-in, but the day passed in a bit of a blur!

 

What do you think? It would save the same people from typing the same stuff all winter...

 

Also, it would be useful if experienced pikers offered to take new pike anglers (local AN members) out for that day to show them the ropes. I tried to do this 2 winters ago but the terrible flooding here meant it never happened. A day with someone who knows what they're doing is worth a hundred articles.

 

There'll also be another pike/zander fish-in (probably in Norfolk again) later in the season where we'll try to get new pikers fishing alongside experienced ones.

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Thereare quite a few good ones allready on the net.I must make a point of taking a note of the URL next time I see one. But that said Anderoo theres always room for another.

 

On the subject of instruction I promised a while back to put on another teach in especially for AN members.As its getting towards that time of year I suppose I best see if there is enough interest and start looking at some dates.As long as they dont class with any of the existing teach in dates Ive got (not so many this year at only 9) I can be quite flexible.I will start another thread to see if people are interested and look at a few dates.

And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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As for being a teenager, sorry I'm in my late 20s.

 

And still fishing with your granddad? You're a lucky man :thumbs:

 

As for unhooking pike, practice makes perfect as they say. Luckily for them, the bigger they are the easier it is! Just make sure you have the right gear, mat, forceps and cutters that will cut through the hooks you use. Buy a decent sized rainbow trout and work out how they are put together, then you can eat it!

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