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D Dawis

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our perch are large when they get over 2lb,once that size they are classed as specimen size,this is my biggest a fish i am very proud of,sorry i couldnt resist-it weighed 3lb 9oz

 

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Good fish there Russell, a lot of anglers would be proud of a fish like that :thumbs:

 

Btw, I can hardly see you in that camo suit ;)

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cheers guys,

 

thats the gore-tex DPM! better than realtree :clap2:

 

it looks like its at night but it was bang on dusk,from a pit too,had my first 2+ the next morning :clap2:

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The American yellow perch is Perca flavescens; the European perch is Perca fluviatilis.

 

There are differing views as to whether they are the same species - perhaps modern genetic tests will tell us more. Vagabond who posts regularly on this forum is an ichthyologist and should be able to help.

 

However whether they are the same species or not their habits and the methods of catching them are very much the same on a given type of water.

 

Perhaps the main difference is that perch grow bigger in Europe, particularly on the continent. This may well be due to fewer species of predatory fish in Europe compared with America.

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The American yellow perch is Perca flavescens; the European perch is Perca fluviatilis.

 

. Vagabond who posts regularly on this forum is an ichthyologist and should be able to help.

 

Congratulations Steve, on being the first on the thread to get it right (correct spelling, upper case for generic name, and lower case for specific name. :sun: )

 

According to Nelson (the ichthyologists' bible) there are three species in the genus Perca - the two you mention and Perca schrenki - found in some isolated lakes in Asia.

 

I have caught both P. fluviatilis and P. flavescens, and as you say Steve, the appearance and habits are very similar.

 

No doubt they share a common ancestor from the time (150 million years ago) when N America was joined to Eurasia

 

Since the N Atlantic opened, the two populations have gone their separate genetic ways. Even after so long, there is still little difference, suggesting perhaps that Perca is well able to survive in a number of different habitats, so there is little evolutionary pressure to change. I suspect P. flavescens and P. fluviatilis would readily hybridise given the chance.

 

Here are a couple of P.fluviatilis

 

percafluviatilismn5.jpg

 

deerdrinkperchvc8.jpg

 

Could one of you guys over the pond give us a pic of a P. flavescens for comparison?

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Congratulations Steve [burke], on being the first on the thread to get it right (correct spelling, upper case for generic name, and lower case for specific name. :sun: )

 

Vagabond, you rotter, I was about to go for the pedant's cup with that one! May I, however, be the first to point out that it should also be italicised :P

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May I, however, be the first to point out that it should also be italicised :P

 

True - we used to have an italics option on the old AN, but it's no longer there.

 

The complexities of "urls for italics" from scratch elude me - has anyone a simple explanation as to how its done?

 

 

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World species 471 : UK species 105 : English species 95 .

Certhia's world species - 215

Eclectic "husband and wife combined" world species 501

 

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