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[Emz]

Presumably if I left my front door unlocked and my wallet on the kitchen table, Andy would think it OK for him to come in and help himself to my wallet and anything else he could find.

 

Or is that just 'A case of moral standards'?

 

Moral standards me thinks plus I doubt Andy mean it like that

 

Bluetooth hacking, lol, heard lots about that! Needless to say, I have it turned off all the time unless I'm using it for other things. It's shocking what people are doing with it sending txts, making calls - you name it

Edited November 16, 2006 by Emz

[Andy_1984]

dont want to argue about this but taking a wallet is diffrent from using their internet, after all they still have it their internet and i havnt took anything away. needless to say i still havnt done anythin yet as i cant be bothered but would be nice to know if it can be done

[Guest NickInTheNorth]

Hi Andy

 

Certainly can be done, but it is theft.

 

You say they still have there internet connection - true. But what they don't have is their full bandwidth allowance, you will have taken some of that.

 

Also, just ponder this, you take a £20 note from someone, spend it, then regret the theft. You replace the £20 note with another one.

 

Have you committed a crime?

[chris parker]

The Theft Act 1968 Section1 (1) states that a person is guilty of theft if: he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it.

 

The £20 note example is theft under the act above.

 

Connecting to an unsecured wireless connection is theft of bandwidth and of the electricity from the person who owns and maintains the connection.

[ColinW]

No, that is ever so slightly different

 

Read the whole article. Although the BBC chose to use the word "hijack" it would appear all he did was access the internet through someone's wifi connection without their permission. He did nothing to their computer.

 

Reading further about this it would now seem absolutely essential to protect your connections. If some paedophile starts downloading kiddie porn via your open connection YOU can be held responsible!!

[corydoras]

Read the whole article. Although the BBC chose to use the word "hijack" it would appear all he did was access the internet through someone's wifi connection without their permission. He did nothing to their computer.

 

Reading further about this it would now seem absolutely essential to protect your connections. If some paedophile starts downloading kiddie porn via your open connection YOU can be held responsible!!

Connecting to an Access Point without permission is a criminal offense Andy. The fact that the access point was running without encryption makes not one iota of difference. (At least not under English Law)

 

It has nothing tp do with 'theft' however. They will prosecute you under the Computer Misuse Act or the Communications Act.

 

As an aside Andy, if one does attach to an unprotected WLAN then all of the traffic you generate will be totally unencrypted and it would be a piece of p!ss for someone like me to read every packet that you send and receive over the insecure connection.

[Emz]

As an aside Andy, if one does attach to an unprotected WLAN then all of the traffic you generate will be totally unencrypted and it would be a piece of p!ss for someone like me to read every packet that you send and receive over the insecure connection.

 

Too true. I've actually left mine open deliberately sometimes, amazing what you can find out, even more fun is turning their world around, literally.

 

Ip tables are fun

[corydoras]

Ip tables are fun

That's being a wee bit wicked emz Remember that running a WAP in unsecured mode could land YOU in hot water too.

[Slap]

http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html

 

Beware.....................

[Emz]

That's being a wee bit wicked emz Remember that running a WAP in unsecured mode could land YOU in hot water too.

 

Indeed, heard it happening quite a few times now Genuine innocent people too, just unaware of the risks.

 

Wicked? If you say so

 

LOL at the iptables example above