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the point you seem to miss is that the bulk of cases involving salvage laws are to do with ships or goods at sea, or ashore in remote / inaccesible areas. If salvors could not recover property from these areas and make money by doing so then in many cases it would be uneconomic for rescue vessels to try and effect a rescue, and therefore people may be killed that currently are saved. Secondly goods either jettisoned or washed overboard would remain where they land.

 

I personally am happy that currently lives are saved as a direct result of the UK's salvage laws, and that in general there is less flotsam and jetsam around our coastline and afloat in our seas than would be the case if the laws where changed.

 

An example of a case were a skippers decision to try to avoid the "worst" of the salvage laws resulted in many probably avoidable deaths was the loss of the "Penlee Lifeboat". the skipper rejected a tow under Lloyds open form and as a result the crew of his ship, the crew of lifeboat and both vessels were lost.

 

How would you suggest the current laws on salvage are modified to encourage salvors to attempt rescues of ships of recovery of property without the current rights to retain property pending payment for services rendered?

 

As to the law being unworkable, it is a very simple very workable law. If you render a service to an owner of property lost at sea then you can be rewarded appropriately to your actions. All that is required - in simple terms - is that you recover the property and keep it safe. You must also notify the receiver of wreck, a very nice young lady by the name of Sophia Exelby. Once that is done the owner of the goods can be re-united with their property if they can be traced, or the salvor can be permitted to keep it.

 

If you wish to know more about the law in this area then look here or here

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Guest sandpipper
As far as I know it is not illegal to open a box washed up on the beach. Just because the box is 40' long and has a seal on it changes nothing.

Not true

I carry queit a few containers with all different types of seals some we are not allowed to touch it depends on the paperwork if customs have been in it you commit a different offence something to do with the queen and customs and exersise and tax

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also bear in mind that failure to report your "finds" is a serious offence and carries significant penalties!

 

Finders who do not report their finds are liable to pay a fine of up to £2,500 for each offence, will lose any salvage rights, and have to pay the person entitled to the find twice the value of the find.

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I suppose one could say that filling in the correct form to apply to keep the stuff salvaged is ok (I can find myself growing to that idea)

But sadly, many of the [Edited to remove a racist word - John S] that I saw in the Newspapers and on the TV news looked like they would'nt be able to string a sentence together, or read the documentation...and indeed had no other intentions bar vandalism and theft.

 

I suppose if people stay within the law, then I concede to your viewpoints, but those who dont should be hung out to dry!

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Squiffy - the term 'pedunkle' is racist and offensive, don't use it on these forums again. This is the second time I have had to edit that comment from this thread :angry:

John S

Quanti Canicula Ille In Fenestra

 

Species caught in 2017 Common Ash, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, White Willow.

Species caught in 2016: Alder, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Crab Apple, Left Earlobe, Pedunculate Oak, Rock Whitebeam, Scots Pine, Smooth-leaved Elm, Swan, Wayfaring tree.

Species caught in 2015: Ash, Bird Cherry, Black-Headed Gull, Common Hazel, Common Whitebeam, Elder, Field Maple, Gorse, Puma, Sessile Oak, White Willow.

Species caught in 2014: Big Angry Man's Ear, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Common Whitebeam, Downy Birch, European Beech, European Holly, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, Wych Elm.
Species caught in 2013: Beech, Elder, Hawthorn, Oak, Right Earlobe, Scots Pine.

Species caught in 2012: Ash, Aspen, Beech, Big Nasty Stinging Nettle, Birch, Copper Beech, Grey Willow, Holly, Hazel, Oak, Wasp Nest (that was a really bad day), White Poplar.
Species caught in 2011: Blackthorn, Crab Apple, Elder, Fir, Hawthorn, Horse Chestnut, Oak, Passing Dog, Rowan, Sycamore, Willow.
Species caught in 2010: Ash, Beech, Birch, Elder, Elm, Gorse, Mullberry, Oak, Poplar, Rowan, Sloe, Willow, Yew.

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Squiffy - the term 'pedunkle' is racist and offensive, don't use it on these forums again. This is the second time I have had to edit that comment from this thread :angry:

 

 

John, depends on what *ikey he's refering to I spose??

 

LOOK.

 

 

Nothing racist against Irish or any other travellers. ;)

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P*key - Noun. 1. A gypsy. [south-east England/Kent use. Dialect]

2. A vagabond, vagrant. Derog. [south-east England/Kent use. Dialect]

 

So it's either a gypsy or a vagrant. Maybe not exactly racial, but both terms are (I believe) both derogatory and objectionable.

John S

Quanti Canicula Ille In Fenestra

 

Species caught in 2017 Common Ash, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, White Willow.

Species caught in 2016: Alder, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Crab Apple, Left Earlobe, Pedunculate Oak, Rock Whitebeam, Scots Pine, Smooth-leaved Elm, Swan, Wayfaring tree.

Species caught in 2015: Ash, Bird Cherry, Black-Headed Gull, Common Hazel, Common Whitebeam, Elder, Field Maple, Gorse, Puma, Sessile Oak, White Willow.

Species caught in 2014: Big Angry Man's Ear, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Common Whitebeam, Downy Birch, European Beech, European Holly, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, Wych Elm.
Species caught in 2013: Beech, Elder, Hawthorn, Oak, Right Earlobe, Scots Pine.

Species caught in 2012: Ash, Aspen, Beech, Big Nasty Stinging Nettle, Birch, Copper Beech, Grey Willow, Holly, Hazel, Oak, Wasp Nest (that was a really bad day), White Poplar.
Species caught in 2011: Blackthorn, Crab Apple, Elder, Fir, Hawthorn, Horse Chestnut, Oak, Passing Dog, Rowan, Sycamore, Willow.
Species caught in 2010: Ash, Beech, Birch, Elder, Elm, Gorse, Mullberry, Oak, Poplar, Rowan, Sloe, Willow, Yew.

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P1key is also commonly used as a synonym of chav, a word which is regarded as having classist rather than racist overtones. "P1key" is equally frequently used as an adjective, as in "he lives on a p1key estate", "those clothes look p1key" or "(name of cheap shop, e.g. one where goods are always sold for one pound) is a p1key shop".

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pedunkle

 

Chavs are objectionable. :D :D :D

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I was taking the meaning listed here.

 

And I agree, Chavs are objectionable.... :D

John S

Quanti Canicula Ille In Fenestra

 

Species caught in 2017 Common Ash, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, White Willow.

Species caught in 2016: Alder, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Crab Apple, Left Earlobe, Pedunculate Oak, Rock Whitebeam, Scots Pine, Smooth-leaved Elm, Swan, Wayfaring tree.

Species caught in 2015: Ash, Bird Cherry, Black-Headed Gull, Common Hazel, Common Whitebeam, Elder, Field Maple, Gorse, Puma, Sessile Oak, White Willow.

Species caught in 2014: Big Angry Man's Ear, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Common Whitebeam, Downy Birch, European Beech, European Holly, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, Wych Elm.
Species caught in 2013: Beech, Elder, Hawthorn, Oak, Right Earlobe, Scots Pine.

Species caught in 2012: Ash, Aspen, Beech, Big Nasty Stinging Nettle, Birch, Copper Beech, Grey Willow, Holly, Hazel, Oak, Wasp Nest (that was a really bad day), White Poplar.
Species caught in 2011: Blackthorn, Crab Apple, Elder, Fir, Hawthorn, Horse Chestnut, Oak, Passing Dog, Rowan, Sycamore, Willow.
Species caught in 2010: Ash, Beech, Birch, Elder, Elm, Gorse, Mullberry, Oak, Poplar, Rowan, Sloe, Willow, Yew.

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