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Leon Roskilly

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I just went past a small local river which was about 7ft up from a week or so back. I don't know about drying up the rivers round here seem to be unfishable more often than ever as they seem to be in flood so much. It's getting so bad the fish are starting to drown !!

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if the IPCC havnt a clue no one does ,they have already halved their speculations (and it is speculations) and now worst case is a 3degree temperature rise by the end of the century and now its less than half a metre sea level rise worst case .

now we know "worst case" is just that so take a half way reading and all this doom and gloom bullshine is nothing more than the earths continual moving above and below the average as it always has donne as it always will ,every 300 years we have a fluctuation 300 years ago it was a mini ice age (even that term is overstated the thames froze in the winter ) next there will be a mini heat wave etc etc ,every ten thousand years or so we get the big changes ,real ice age or desertification as it always has as it always will.

 

yes some times the rivers get low they did in 1976 but they fooking well havn't since to the same extent and for the last two years the water table has been brimming despite the doom and gloom merchants saying were all going to run out of water!!!

fear is the best way of getting your veiw across and an excellent way of extracting money ,the gov use it to bring in laws stopping you doing almost anything and taxing you to the hilt ,the scientists do it for funding.

explain just what cc engines or power plants cavemen used to make the last ice age? or how much oil they burnt to make it go away again? or did it just occur as it always did and will again?

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:clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

Very interesting thread this! I'd have imagined that anglers would be more likely to believe in global warming etc. Given the fuss over otters and Poles etc you'd think anglers would attempt to help the rivers by using less water, less detergent, less energy, less fuel, abstaining from sex etc etc.

 

I'd agree that governments like to rule with fear but I was under the impression the balance of evidence supported the notion that global warming is happening and that man has contributed to this change. Whilst, as many point out, changing climates and temperatures are nothing new, it is the speed of change that is novel, to put it simply the earth is getting too hot too quickly.

 

The media have alot to answer for, too often misrepresenting research with misleading headlines, or worse scaring the public buy giving poor research too many inches without giving enough to the more boring research showing that we aren't all going to die of a flesh eating bug afterall. Take the MMR vaccine, thanks to one bad study and the media we're not far off measles epidemics.

 

Regardless of whether the rivers dry up or keep flooding, you can be sure that a spiral of heavy droughts and floods that WILL happen as the climate changes (regardless of the cause) will be not have a positive effect on fish stocks.

 

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Take the MMR vaccine, thanks to one bad study and the media we're not far off measles epidemics.

 

and the government intransigence and bloody mindedness.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Regardless of whether the rivers dry up or keep flooding, you can be sure that a spiral of heavy droughts and floods that WILL happen as the climate changes

 

 

Remember back in 1976 when they appointed a Minister for Drought, and the Drought went away?

 

Well, now we have

 

DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND CLIMATE CHANGE

 

Ed Miliband has been appointed the new Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change.

 

Minister of State - Mike O'Brien

 

Minister of State - Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (jointly with Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs); and Deputy Leader of the House of Lords

 

Parliamentary Under Secretary of State - Joan Ruddock

 

 

Things will surely soon be back to normal!

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Very interesting thread this! I'd have imagined that anglers would be more likely to believe in global warming etc. Given the fuss over otters and Poles etc you'd think anglers would attempt to help the rivers by using less water, less detergent, less energy, less fuel, abstaining from sex etc etc.

 

I'd agree that governments like to rule with fear but I was under the impression the balance of evidence supported the notion that global warming is happening and that man has contributed to this change. Whilst, as many point out, changing climates and temperatures are nothing new, it is the speed of change that is novel, to put it simply the earth is getting too hot too quickly.

 

The media have alot to answer for, too often misrepresenting research with misleading headlines, or worse scaring the public buy giving poor research too many inches without giving enough to the more boring research showing that we aren't all going to die of a flesh eating bug afterall. Take the MMR vaccine, thanks to one bad study and the media we're not far off measles epidemics.

 

Regardless of whether the rivers dry up or keep flooding, you can be sure that a spiral of heavy droughts and floods that WILL happen as the climate changes (regardless of the cause) will be not have a positive effect on fish stocks.

 

Rich

But a lot don't believe it because they don't want to believe it, try to debate with them and they just stick their fingers in there ears and chant 'Tra-la-la, I can't hear you'. Edited by corydoras

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I'd be interested to know how research showing Britains rivers running dry marries up to the threat of more flooding than ever before? Where will the water come from, if not from the rivers overflowing?

You've just explained exactly why rivers could be running dry. With ever more concrete and tarmac covering areas of flood plain, the rainwater, instead of soaking into the ground to fill up the aquifers, goes straight into the rivers and causes widescale flooding. This means that the sluice gates are opened to protect property that should never have been there and and all the precious water goes straight into the sea. Water companies then have to pump increasing amounts of water out of the ground to meet the growing demand - straight from the aquifers that would have kept the river levels topped up.

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Well, you only have to look into history for your answers.

 

Rest is 'green tax' and political leverage

I'm looking for evidence, that aint it.

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