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One of the things I like about AN, is that although there is a vast wealth of knowledge and experience among it's members, nobody claims to know everything. If they did, they would be bloody liars. :)

 

We've all met these pillocks who instead of giving advise to try and help, just try to put you down.

Maybe it's a lack of confidence in themselves that causes it, so they have to try and boost their own ego to compensate.

 

I'd just go for it Alan. Your attitude and approach seem sound to me.

We all hook bigger fish than we expect now and again, then it's up to experience and a bit of luck as to the outcome.

Don't worry about it mate. Just ask the 'gentleman' in question to come on here, he'll be brought back down to size soon enough. ;)

 

Good Luck

 

John.

 

Cheers John, I`m truly touched by so much goodwill. I agree that the only way to learn to handle/land a bigger fish is to catch one and learn as you go. I`m confident in my ability and common sense so I hope now that I can catch a nice sized fish and thank you all by showing you a photo!

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It's all been said already really, just go fishing and enjoy yourself.

 

The other guy's a bit of an idiot, the lake is obviously open to everyone, there could well be someone there with no experience whatsoever, the only difference is that Mr Idiot happens to know that you are going.

 

Good luck.

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As everyone else has said, that guy is spouting pure rubbish. Most hardcore carp anglers tend to be holier-than-thou and overstate tackle requirements for everyday carp in everyday fisheries (that is medium sized non-specialist lakes with a stock of general coarse fish) and tend to suggest that anything less than 2 1/2lb tc rods and 12lb line is not acceptable. Rubbish. If you're hurling enormous weights enormous distances in an enormous lake/pit for enormous fish then yeah, okay, but for a 5 acre coarse lake it's overkill. What you've listed is more than adequate to handle the average size of carp in that lake and, actually, you will almost certainly see a lot of people fishing for those same carp on a pole, which to me isn't a good idea but most other anglers (even hardcore carpers) tend to ignore that. But that's just my personal opinion on that.

 

Anyway, I landed my pb carp of 24lb on a medium float rod, a match reel, 4lb line, size 16 hook and maggots. It was an unexpected fish as I was aiming for tench and the average size carp were a similar szie as in your lake. Although the fight naturally went on for a LOT longer than I would've liked (around 40 mins - fortunately I had my pike weigh sling in my bag from a previous session so was able to let the fish rest in the dark for a few minutes to regain its breath before weighing, photos etc), I did land the fish and learnt how to play larger species properly.

 

The reality is an occurrance like that is a rarity, so you're more likely to be getting into the average to doubles and, providing there aren't too many snags, the tackle you'll be using should be sufficient. Naturally you don't want to go too light (assuming you're specifically targeting carp) so the fight isn't prolonged any more than it should be, but that's just common sense and it sounds to me you already have your wits about you.

 

My advice - go along, use the tackle you intend to use and have fun when you latch into one of those carp. As long as you stay calm and let 'em run when they want to run, you really have nothing to worry about.

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I've seen 12 year-old noddy youngsters playing double-figure pike on starter rods and 6lb line. OK, they might stand on the fish once they get it to the bank but they still get it there. What are they doing if they aren't playing fish? If you're tackled up right, go and do it. I don't advise folk to go pike fishing right away because handling them can be a challenge but almost all other fish are fairly easy to unhook. If your tackle is upto it, go and catch big carp and enjoy it.

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I've seen 12 year-old noddy youngsters playing double-figure pike on starter rods and 6lb line. OK, they might stand on the fish once they get it to the bank but they still get it there. What are they doing if they aren't playing fish? If you're tackled up right, go and do it. I don't advise folk to go pike fishing right away because handling them can be a challenge but almost all other fish are fairly easy to unhook. If your tackle is upto it, go and catch big carp and enjoy it.

 

Cheers Andy, while one day in the future I do fancy a go at piking, its one form of fishing I dont have the tackle for and dont want to attempt it unless I have someone more experienced with me to show me how to handle one safely (thats me AND the fish) and remove the lure/hooks. For now I`ll content myself with trying to catch a nice fish anything bigger than 5lb. I`m planning on using a medium/heavy feeder rod with matching reel and most likely 8lb mainline and a 6lb hair-rigged hooklength and either a semi-fixed method feeder or a free-running leger. I haven`t a clue how I`ll do but I`m confident I`ll come back and have a story or two to tell.

 

Cheers for all the kind words and support lads. You really are the best bunch :)

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I`m planning on using a medium/heavy feeder rod with matching reel and most likely 8lb mainline and a 6lb hair-rigged hooklength and either a semi-fixed method feeder or a free-running leger.

 

Forget free running legers and finnesse, just stick a bolt rig out on a second rod, so you can carry on doing "proper fishing" while you are waiting for a pellet pig to hook itself.

If you fish the right bait on float tackle you'll catch plenty of carp without sitting bored rigid for hours. Corned beef is my favourite by a mile. If you need to cast it, mould it round a banded expander pellet. If fishing the margins just mould a ball on the hook and swing it out gently.

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Forget free running legers and finnesse, just stick a bolt rig out on a second rod, so you can carry on doing "proper fishing" while you are waiting for a pellet pig to hook itself.

If you fish the right bait on float tackle you'll catch plenty of carp without sitting bored rigid for hours. Corned beef is my favourite by a mile. If you need to cast it, mould it round a banded expander pellet. If fishing the margins just mould a ball on the hook and swing it out gently.

 

LOL, cheers Colin. I am going to be float fishing with a second rod so I dont end up sitting on my hands all day. Cheers for the tips. i`ll definitely take some corned beef with me.

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This lake .............has been substantially restocked with roach,rudd, carp and bream. It is open for pleasure anglers and match fishing.

 

Well, there you go - the owner wants you there, even if mouth-almighty doesn't :lol:

 

The average (carp) size expected would be between 4lb - 8lb, although a lot of doubles are beginning to show now and mid twenties have been caught.

 

..so it doesn't even have BIG carp in it! 25lb is considered medium size these days. There must be several dozen anglers on this forum who have caught carp into mid-twenties, and not a few who have done so whilst "pleasure fishing" with non-specialist tackle. Some even hadn't been into fishing for very long. BTW I've landed 20lb+ carp on roach tackle, and I'm far from being the only one who has.

 

There are plenty of commercials and syndicate waters with BIG carp of 30, 40 and even 50 lbs in them, and tackling those does need a bit of experience, but telling someone he isn't capable of handling a 25 :o ........come on!

 

Please catch a 20-plus and show us (and your critic) the piccies. :)

 

 

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Well, there you go - the owner wants you there, even if mouth-almighty doesn't :lol:

 

 

 

..so it doesn't even have BIG carp in it! 25lb is considered medium size these days. There must be several dozen anglers on this forum who have caught carp into mid-twenties, and not a few who have done so whilst "pleasure fishing" with non-specialist tackle. Some even hadn't been into fishing for very long. BTW I've landed 20lb+ carp on roach tackle, and I'm far from being the only one who has.

 

There are plenty of commercials and syndicate waters with BIG carp of 30, 40 and even 50 lbs in them, and tackling those does need a bit of experience, but telling someone he isn't capable of handling a 25 :o ........come on!

 

Please catch a 20-plus and show us (and your critic) the piccies. :)

 

Believe me mate, nothing would make me happier than to catch a nice sized fish and let him see the photo to show him he`s been sniffing too much tippex ;-)

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Quite right too. As long as you're sure you can get the fish on the bank, just make sure you have everything (mat, unhooking kit, camera, sling, scales, cheesy grin) laid out and ready, know the drill first and there shouldn't be a problem. If you land a right big fish, just take your time, be calm and confident and if you get into any difficulty, just ask someone to give you a hand. Nobody (or they shouldn't) gets angry at folk asking for help. It's the one's that don't that are the problem.

Mind and tell us what you catch.

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