E U. Should we stay or should we leave.

[chesters1]

Got no problem with that it will save us a bit of money ,let the EU pay more!

Why on earth should we pay to help africans ruin farms ,they should already know everything according to you humans originated there so must know more than us!

Like them all its an excuse for the elite to jet off to nice places and feast off the back of the masses ,have the g7 slipped a tenner through your letterbox ? No! Its irrevelent except for free trips abroad for the few and a 1000 broken promises

Edited July 31, 2019 by chesters1

[Ken L]

I doubt the majority of those who live in NI would agree with you. By the same argument you could ditch Wales, Yorkshire, Dorset and most of northern England. I would be delighted if Cheshire could declare UDI and remain. i reckon Scotland will leave the union and I would now be in favour if I lived there.

 

Best of luck to them. I look forward to hearing details of who will fund the £13.4 billion shortfall in their economy thanks to the SNP's "free stuff" manifesto.

Free universities, free prescriptions etc and Nicola "Wee Jimmy Krankie" Sturgeon wants to con people into believing that she can get the EU to pick up the bill for hew socialist utopia without having to sign up to a mass migration commitment that will utterly and permanently destroy the Scottish culture that she pretends to support.

 

I'd dearly like to believe that the Scottish population aren't that stupid, but the lure of free stuff is strong and as Project Ireland 2040 shows, traitorous politicians get away with almost anything is the population is sufficiently asleep.

[corydoras]

Best of luck to them. I look forward to hearing details of who will fund the £13.4 billion shortfall in their economy thanks to the SNP's "free stuff" manifesto.

Free universities, free prescriptions etc and Nicola "Wee Jimmy Krankie" Sturgeon wants to con people into believing that she can get the EU to pick up the bill for hew socialist utopia without having to sign up to a mass migration commitment that will utterly and permanently destroy the Scottish culture that she pretends to support.

 

I'd dearly like to believe that the Scottish population aren't that stupid, but the lure of free stuff is strong and as Project Ireland 2040 shows, traitorous politicians get away with almost anything is the population is sufficiently asleep.

Do you actually READ links before you post or is a quick Google and a scan of the headlines suffice?

Edited August 1, 2019 by corydoras

[big_cod]

So do I because without Scotland the mash-eaters and the sheep-shaggers will be out of the G7. I know it is hard but try talking sense for a change.

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And Scotland will send all English boats packing off south of the border its an almost certainty Scotland will go independent after Brexit all English boats fishing on cod etc brexit will say goodbye to fishing of f Scotland Shetlands etc for the bulk of English whitefish trawlers who fish there I cant wait for the **** to hit the fan up goes your fish and chips mind thats if you eat them .

 

Will brexit make this even worse frightening but is it !!!!!

 

http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/

 

And those hard working families this government keep tally about taking there kids on holiday shafted no its not scaremongering its Brexit reality tuck in

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/pound-euro-exchange-rate-brexit-gatwick-heathrow-gbp-eur-a9026226.html

Edited August 1, 2019 by big_cod

[Ken L]

What Scotland needs is a 200 mile Exclusive Economic Zone, because while we remain the EU, its waters are being raped by Dutch, Danish, French and Spanish boats.

The Scottish First Minister’s determination to keep her country inside the European Union would mean coastal communities missing out on a huge business boost and allies of Ms Sturgeon have conceded the Scottish National Party would happily join the EU’s Common Fisheries Policy as part of the plan.

This would cost Scotland’s economy a share of an expected boost of nearly £2billion to Britain’s fishing industry after Brexit

[big_cod]

What Scotland needs is a 200 mile Exclusive Economic Zone, because while we remain the EU, its waters are being raped by Dutch, Danish, French and Spanish boats.

 

The Scottish First Ministers determination to keep her country inside the European Union would mean coastal communities missing out on a huge business boost and allies of Ms Sturgeon have conceded the Scottish National Party would happily join the EUs Common Fisheries Policy as part of the plan.

This would cost Scotlands economy a share of an expected boost of nearly £2billion to Britains fishing industry after Brexit

How much do you think the uk fishing industry has had in grants out of the EU I dont think k I know anybody involved in the commercial fishing industry who hasnt had a grant in some shape or form form Europe in the last 20 years or so new boats etc .

 

As for Scotland they will go independent if we Brexit then all the English boat that fish there now which is the bulk of our white fish fleet will be doomed .

Edited August 3, 2019 by big_cod

[chesters1]

How much do you think the uk fishing industry has had in grants out of the EU I dont think k I know anybody involved in the commercial fishing industry who hasnt had a grant in some shape or form form Europe in the last 20 years or so new boats etc .

 

As for Scotland they will go independent if we Brexit then all the English boat that fish there now which is the bulk of our white fish fleet will be doomed .

The EU doesnt have money it redistributes the countries that pay into the pot money to somewhere else ,in essence WE pay the money to the fishing fleet

No idea why tax payers money should bolster a failing industry ,ofcourse if it wasnt a failure it wouldnt need handouts!

Perhaps its failing because the very EU you love insists they fish our grounds aswell as us

Edited August 3, 2019 by chesters1

[Ken L]

How much do you think the uk fishing industry has had in grants out of the EU I dont think k I know anybody involved in the commercial fishing industry who hasnt had a grant in some shape or form form Europe in the last 20 years or so new boats etc .

 

As for Scotland they will go independent if we Brexit then all the English boat that fish there now which is the bulk of our white fish fleet will be doomed .

 

The French took 120,000 tonnes of fish from UK waters in 2017, worth £171 million, the Dutch took 177,000 tonnes, worth £92 million and the Danes took 237,000 tonnes, worth £90 million.

 

For context the UK fleet landed approximately 581,000 tonnes with a value of £811 million from UK waters in 2017. In the same year, UK vessels landed around 94,000 tonnes (£88 million) in total from other member state waters.

 

As I've said before, I'm not a socialist, so I don't believe in grants, but as you asked, the tax payed on (171 + 92 + 90 - 88) = £265,000,000 covers a lot of grants.

 

As for white fish, there are plenty of cod in the English Channel but currently, more than 80% of it is going to France.

 

Apparently, there are even some cod to be found in the lower half of the North Sea.

Edited August 3, 2019 by Ken L

[big_cod]

 

The French took 120,000 tonnes of fish from UK waters in 2017, worth £171 million, the Dutch took 177,000 tonnes, worth £92 million and the Danes took 237,000 tonnes, worth £90 million.

 

For context the UK fleet landed approximately 581,000 tonnes with a value of £811 million from UK waters in 2017. In the same year, UK vessels landed around 94,000 tonnes (£88 million) in total from other member state waters.

 

As I've said before, I'm not a socialist, so I don't believe in grants, but as you asked, the tax payed on (171 + 92 + 90 - 88) = £265,000,000 covers a lot of grants.

 

As for white fish, there are plenty of cod in the English Channel but currently, more than 80% of it is going to France.

 

Apparently, there are even some cod to be found in the lower half of the North Sea.

Plenty of cod in channel not true now thats a blatant lie but it was in the express what they call the Chanel will be fish caught far out in the western approaches there is very little cod in channel as we get more and more anglers from the south coming north trying to catch one ..

 

As for grants plenty of conservative voters I known accept them most fishermen vote conservative does that make them two faced I dont think they will class grants as anything to do with socialism. Fishermen are given quotas which can used as commodities and traded .

 

You want honest answer with cod stocks they are in serious trouble I can see closure coming on cod not to far in the distant future from being a lad loading wagons to the brim in the 70s full of big cod to where we are now it is frightening and Brexit will solve it all I really really cant wait for the disappointment the public are lied to day after day after day and they believe it all not to long now for a reality check and that doesnt just apply to fishing .

 

And as I said the bulk of the uk sorry English white fish boats fishing for cod go into Scottish waters as that is the only place left where cod are still in very good numbers brexit will almost certainly finish them off I personally know plenty of lads from here who fish out of Peterhead and it will be very very interesting very soon on the fishing scene probably grants flying about everywhere to rebuild our fishing fleet after brexit with nothing to catch .

 

As this part of the world we have no white fish boats fishing here yet white fish stocks are dropping off the scale IFCA was warned what was happening and now its there for all to see habitat destruction its like no more shooting the birds in the forest as numbers are dwindling but we want to chop the forest down thats exactly what has happened here fish stocks have dwindled all round the uk overfishing isnt always the answer you can catch hugh numbers of fish in a net leave it alone and they will soon return in numbers if left alone destroy there habitat your doomed for decades and decades or ever .

Edited August 4, 2019 by big_cod

[Ken L]

The EU has been managing the cod stock for 40 years so how is it that it and the British fishing industry that it once supported has declined while the fish and fishing industry in Norwegian and Icelandic waters are doing just fine?
Or are you prepared to admit that the CFP has been an environmental disaster?
Weird that you report that the only place to go to catch cod is as far away as possible from Dutch and French ports - why is that do you suppose?