E U. Should we stay or should we leave.

[big_cod]

3 hours ago, barry luxton said:

ahhh right,

quote you:               every single economic data  says our economy will nose dive with leaving  the EU

Errrrmmmmm is that the singular or plural? Show us the links please, we need your education on the benefits of remaining in the political e u trading block that no one has provided a mandate to.

And these cuts, have you even contemplated the two new aircraft carriers along with the all new lightning 11squadrons . Can you provide your data re the cuts and the allowance for this expenditure? 10,000 jobs created in the build alone btw. Including generating squiilions for the u k with regards to the uk's research and development and creation of the electronics required for all of these planes, worldwide. Did you know that or even considered that?

psssst, do you know what capabilities Russia have for their mobile air fields, at the last count they have a second hand aircraft carrier that belches black smoke while  navigating. Forgot to add, it caught fire just before Christmas.

so in reality you will have to concede that the u k is doing rather well in comparison, wont you?

The U.K. is doing well are you sure about that brexshit certainly done its job ..

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/27/uk-economy-faces-weakest-growth-outside-of-recession-since-second-world-war

Edited December 30, 2019 by big_cod

[barry luxton]

7 hours ago, big_cod said:

The U.K. is doing well are you sure about that brexshit certainly done its job ..

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/27/uk-economy-faces-weakest-growth-outside-of-recession-since-second-world-war

yet again you missed reading and understanding the evidence you link. you would do better cherry picking and deleting the positive bits out if you wish to remain slagging off what

in reality is projected for the u k. Is it not the case readers of that paper have to take anti depressants, just like the Robert Maxwell paper you covert.

from your link:

The pound has rallied strongly and stock markets have surged in recent weeks amid hopes that Johnson’s new government, with an 80-seat majority, can make progress towards smoothly extracting Britain from the EU. There are also hopes for stronger economic growth spurred by a splurge in government spending.

The FTSE 100 has raced ahead since the election on the back of the unexpectedly large Tory majority and amid signs of a breakthrough in the US-China trade war – a dispute that has dragged down global trade volumes and harmed economic growth around the world this year.

 

[big_cod]

12 hours ago, big_cod said:

You’ll love this one Barry how patriotic heard the saying  chewing a brick nearly bust my sides laughing when I saw this well here you are let’s make Great Britain great again banging there Chests    the Tory’s really do take some  beating sell your granny for a  penny ,   hypocrites .

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/french-company-wins-licence-to-monitor-british-fishing-boats-5dk8wp6gr

Get  your order in now limited addition fiesta Farage 

https://www.suffolkgazette.com/business/british-car-brexit/

Barry you missed this Don’t you love it just on your other reply you say  the pound rallied what was it before the brexit vote and it has only rallied because of the uncertainty no longer prevails if there had been another referendum and it had been remain it would shot to over 140 against  the euro where it was before the referendum the pound us to any where pre referendum values it’s shite no other word f or it it has cost us billions and we ain’t bloody left yet .

 

Edited December 30, 2019 by big_cod

[barry luxton]

5 hours ago, big_cod said:

Barry you missed this Don’t you love it just on your other reply you say  the pound rallied what was it before the brexit vote and it has only rallied because of the uncertainty no longer prevails if there had been another referendum and it had been remain it would shot to over 140 against  the euro where it was before the referendum the pound us to any where pre referendum values it’s shite no other word f or it it has cost us billions and we ain’t bloody left yet .

 

you think you have evidence of financial doldrums for the u k by using an e u loving company who enjoy the one way traffic of having all the e u's honchos to speak to invited audiences as proof and factual reality of your Brexit plight. It don't cut any ice, so provide something more credible. Before the referendum the pound was at a artificial high and adjustment downwards was not only beneficial but an advantage as well, exports up as well you know. 

 

What do you recon on the price of fuel. I think the cost hasn't got any higher since the vote. According to your assumptions it should be nearer 1.60-1.70 by now.

and now you are using hypothetical assumptions of what if's. Second referendum would obviously lead to more uncertainly and keep farage busy with the best of 3.

There has been four or five confirmations of what the u k voted for in 2016 including the latest support, mandate given to boris, c/o losses to Corbyn and co to get Brexit done. It's over, get with the programme.

Brexit is nearly with us. France is preparing it's crossings with border checks and the u k need to do the same. You seen that piece where the e u is importing dodgy pet dogs into the u k, that's before Brexit.

New border checks are not only required but vital to prevent shiet being imported from the e u who's regulations don't match sense and sensibility.

[Phone]

Cod,

You did have "another referendum" (and the outcome was not "remain"). "It would shot to over 140 against  the euro"  (no - it wouldn't, the pound has been weak against the dollar, depreciating over the past 116 years). The only thing that would help the pound is if we would have another Civil War (a possibility I guess). To leave has cost you "billions" of what? Certainly not market parity.

Phone

[Huge_Vitae]

22 hours ago, barry luxton said:

And these cuts, have you even contemplated the two new aircraft carriers along with the all new lightning 11squadrons . Can you provide your data re the cuts and the allowance for this expenditure? 10,000 jobs created in the build alone btw. Including generating squiilions for the u k with regards to the uk's research and development and creation of the electronics required for all of these planes, worldwide. Did you know that or even considered that?

psssst, do you know what capabilities Russia have for their mobile air fields, at the last count they have a second hand aircraft carrier that belches black smoke while  navigating. Forgot to add, it caught fire just before Christmas.

Not forgetting:

As of October 2019, the following are under construction or being laid down; 

• the final three of seven Astute-class submarines,
• the first of four Dreadnought-class ballistic missile submarines,
• the first two of eight Type 26 frigates and
• the ninth of nine ocean-going patrol vessels.

In addition, early design and preparation work has begun for a fleet of at least five Type 31 frigates.

But there again Barry he is not a reliable source for such info, after all he seems to just copy and paste from the ramblings of Militant Socialist Worker sources. I recall another of his demented ramblings where he referred to HMS 7 (sic) being scrapped because of Tory cuts, failing to notice the clue is in the name of ‘River’ Class warships and she was returned to Vospers simply because under the fantastic PFI deal arranged by Gordon Brown it was costing more to lease it for a year than the cost of building new vessels.

Several of the new River class are now operational, the additional size, inclusion of deck space for a Merlin Helicopter and mess space for Royal Marines means they will be a formidable complement to border security and fisheries protection. Once that is, that they are returned by the EU.

[chesters1]

Yup we need  ore patrol boats its costing the RLNI a fortune being meet and greet representatives 4 yards outside the french controlled sea lanes it must be cheaper just to chug back to france towing the buggers behind but for some reason they head to these shore .

With more boats we  can save fuel stringing ladders between them so the migrants can simply walk here ,we cannot have the poor buggers getting seasick can we .

Psss cods now looking up the odd word in your post to see if theres a headline he can link to lol

Or he will quote it then shoot of on some unrelated tangeant with miners ,nissan ,red bus,or welders in it

Edited December 30, 2019 by chesters1

[Huge_Vitae]

8 minutes ago, chesters1 said:

Yup we need  ore patrol boats its costing the RLNI a fortune being meet and greet representatives 4 yards outside the french controlled sea lanes it must be cheaper just to chug back to france towing the buggers behind but for some reason they head to these shore .

With more boats we  can save fuel stringing ladders between them so the migrants can simply walk here ,we cannot have the poor buggers getting seasick can we .

Psss cods now looking up the odd word in your post to see if theres a headline he can link to lol

Or he will quote it then shoot of on some unrelated tangeant with miners ,nissan ,red bus,or welders in it

Clod accepts that 100% of migrants in the Channel ‘belongs’ to the U.K. but that 85% of the fish ‘belongs’ to France and he is happy with that.

[big_cod]

10 hours ago, barry luxton said:

you think you have evidence of financial doldrums for the u k by using an e u loving company who enjoy the one way traffic of having all the e u's honchos to speak to invited audiences as proof and factual reality of your Brexit plight. It don't cut any ice, so provide something more credible. Before the referendum the pound was at a artificial high and adjustment downwards was not only beneficial but an advantage as well, exports up as well you know. 

 

What do you recon on the price of fuel. I think the cost hasn't got any higher since the vote. According to your assumptions it should be nearer 1.60-1.70 by now.

 

Pound artificiality ****s that’s the brexit excuse it’s rubbish  now if the pound  had rocketed you would have been wetting yourself  waiting to put it in writing .

Barry look up heating oil prices and diesel prices prior the 2016 referendum .

heating oil anywhere from 30-40 p a litre now 50-60 p a litre  in 2016 it was cheaper to run the oil boiler than put the bloody log burner on with the price of logs .

Diesel  prices may 2016 average price £1.09 December 2019 average price £1.31p per litre .weak pound brexit still way below pre referendum levels .

Brexit is costing every single households a fortune whether it’s filling the car up heating your home going on holiday you name it fuel up everything up most are just to stupid to see it and think brexit is great . crack on !!!

Edited December 31, 2019 by big_cod

[big_cod]

11 hours ago, Huge_Vitae said:

Not forgetting:

As of October 2019, the following are under construction or being laid down; 

• the final three of seven Astute-class submarines,
• the first of four Dreadnought-class ballistic missile submarines,
• the first two of eight Type 26 frigates and
• the ninth of nine ocean-going patrol vessels.

In addition, early design and preparation work has begun for a fleet of at least five Type 31 frigates.

But there again Barry he is not a reliable source for such info, after all he seems to just copy and paste from the ramblings of Militant Socialist Worker sources. I recall another of his demented ramblings where he referred to HMS 7 (sic) being scrapped because of Tory cuts, failing to notice the clue is in the name of ‘River’ Class warships and she was returned to Vospers simply because under the fantastic PFI deal arranged by Gordon Brown it was costing more to lease it for a year than the cost of building new vessels.

Several of the new River class are now operational, the additional size, inclusion of deck space for a Merlin Helicopter and mess space for Royal Marines means they will be a formidable complement to border security and fisheries protection. Once that is, that they are returned by the EU.

So Sphugh what are you actually saying no cuts  in the armed forces socialist militant sources you say next you ****s,  next will be telling me brexit has given us all a surplus at times there wasn’t enough cash in the pot to fuel the ships we actually have that’s how bad this Tory government run the navy to . 

https://www.forces.net/services/army/army-half-capable-after-budget-cuts-says-former-chief

Edited December 31, 2019 by big_cod