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20 hours ago, big_cod said:

....................................................... I sometimes get anglers asking me stupid questions .

oh dear you even resort to biting the hands that feed you, you know your  bonkers. 

 

Are you intimating there is a north south divide, surely not? 

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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1 hour ago, Huge_Vitae said:

You don’t have to read far to see the bias on the website quoted Gozzer, once again laughable.

Especially so if you look at the IPSO website you can plainly see, during the period 01/01/2018 through 31/12/2019 IPSO received Fifteen  yes Fifteen complaints against The Daily Mail! of which seven were rejected after investigation.

Not sure what other publications had but not exactly the spin put on the story. AGAIN.

ohhh dear someone has been shot down in flames yet again, i recon cods other name is akin to the daily spin. 

 

quote cod's spinning assumption that the mail lies 365 times each year.

Now if your looking for most unreliable news paper look no further than the brexit Daily Mail who lies to its readers on daily basis 

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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12 hours ago, big_cod said:

 

But being realistic the city is our biggest money spinner fishing 0.1% its a no brainier it was done before it will done again by you know who .

Talking to one of the skippers here this morning he is setting off for Brussels talks in progress which they have been   for months but it’s all extremely complicated UK boats catch the bulk of there  cod in Norwegian waters the Norwegians want access to mackerel in U.K. waters to trade for cod but all done while in the EU and through the EU 

But you think it’s simple it is not is extremely complicated and yes we will give acces to  EU fishing boats just as god made little apples it’s how they break it to  you .

 

One point you haphazardly got right is the importance of the u k's financial sector that is on parr with new york and the e u are fully aware of it, so where else are they going to go to raise day to day capital cod, the ECB ( please note phone). What have they got to offer if the e u don't get the trade deal with the u k. Personally i don't care as i know who will loose out. The u k financial market is already world wide and it  ain't going no where. 

you have been spinning the first line so much you believe it to be true. Don't take us for fools cod, all you have done yet again is to diminish the importance of all of the u k's coastal communities by using the first landing sales of the u k's commercial fishing industry. Did  you know or care the e u boats take twice as much as the u k out of u k waters, and don't use quota as the reason why as that will be shot down in flames as well. Us anglers know nothing yer right. How much cod is going back to u k interests in the channel cod after the french have been shoved out of u k waters and you recon they are going to get a deal, pathetic. did you know cod the london protocol is going to be dumped the same day as the c f p. Do you even know the importance of that, i think not. The whole of the u k's coastal communities have been second in line to the e u's cfp. Even now the e u are encouraging discard by offering up pathetic laws instructing the anglers to send back the bass perhaps dead or dying. And deny it if you will the french and the dutch commercials have been clearing out the bass breeding stock not the kin anglers. What planet are you from. 

and as for cod in norway waters. Again what planet are you from. The u k has been importing cod and haddock from both iceland and norway far longer than the e u has been in existance and will continue long after the e u middle man has bugg@rd off cod, including organising unilateral trade deals, so why are you intimating the importance of any deal the u k will make with norway. Setting off to brussels, yer right. he's only got a couple of weeks and the e u will be  of no importance. You have made it up surely. 

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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10 hours ago, barry luxton said:

One point you haphazardly got right is the importance of the u k's financial sector that is on parr with new york and the e u are fully aware of it, so where else are they going to go to raise day to day capital cod, the ECB ( please note phone). What have they got to offer if the e u don't get the trade deal with the u k. Personally i don't care as i know who will loose out. The u k financial market is already world wide and it  ain't going no where. 

you have been spinning the first line so much you believe it to be true. Don't take us for fools cod, all you have done yet again is to diminish the importance of all of the u k's coastal communities by using the first landing sales of the u k's commercial fishing industry. Did  you know or care the e u boats take twice as much as the u k out of u k waters, and don't use quota as the reason why as that will be shot down in flames as well. Us anglers know nothing yer right. How much cod is going back to u k interests in the channel cod after the french have been shoved out of u k waters and you recon they are going to get a deal, pathetic. did you know cod the london protocol is going to be dumped the same day as the c f p. Do you even know the importance of that, i think not. The whole of the u k's coastal communities have been second in line to the e u's cfp. Even now the e u are encouraging discard by offering up pathetic laws instructing the anglers to send back the bass perhaps dead or dying. And deny it if you will the french and the dutch commercials have been clearing out the bass breeding stock not the kin anglers. What planet are you from. 

and as for cod in norway waters. Again what planet are you from. The u k has been importing cod and haddock from both iceland and norway far longer than the e u has been in existance and will continue long after the e u middle man has bugg@rd off cod, including organising unilateral trade deals, so why are you intimating the importance of any deal the u k will make with norway. Setting off to brussels, yer right. he's only got a couple of weeks and the e u will be  of no importance. You have made it up surely. 

U.K. coastal communities tell me l how this miracle is going spread like magic after brexit its bullshit I have asked you  once to explain but you never answered so explain exactly how this miracle will happen .

You have no idea what so ever what goes on in  the fishing industry I have told you  to get a box of Kleenex I would get 2 boxes not one your going to need them remember what Tory PM Ted Heath did well brace yourself it will Boris Johnson who will do the deed brexit will soon turn to brexshit 

Norway ah yes U.K. trawlers catch the bulk of all  cod landed back in Peterhead from there and are allowed to fish there because of trade offs through the EU .The Norwegians eat little cod so mackerel is what they want they trade cod for mackerel which they catch in U.K. waters again you haven’t a clue have you fantasy not reality importing cod from Norway in the 1960s are you sure about that we import salmon not cod in quantity from Norway 

The EU set quotas which were abused look up prosecutions it’s all there in black and white we import around 70-80 % of all fish we eat frozen fish from Iceland and the faroe islands  far cheaper than fresh 99% of restaurants chip shops all  use imported frozen fish it’s cheaper than fresh to purchase those habits ain’t going to change .

Its this miriacle of yours in coastal communities that intrigues me when the bulk of fishing boats in these coastal communities  already export there majority of there produce to the EU hassle free no tariffs no hold up its gets there live in prime condition .You do know that   but you don’t do you bas again explain to me about this miracle of yours I can’t wait .

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https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-will-cost-uk-more-than-total-payments-to-eu-2020-1

lets scrap waiting times lists yep about right . :bigemo_harabe_net-163:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2020/jan/15/steve-bell-on-the-scrapping-of-nhs-ae-waiting-times-cartoon

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cobblers cod, the u k had bilateral trade deals with norway and fisheries agreements before the e u poked it's nose in and following brexit that is exactly what will happen. as will the u k fishing management it will be down to the u k to manage and guess what cod u k fishermen and anglers the charter boat industry, the electorate and you are first in line to benefit.

Your man in brussels meet anyone important did they as the head honcho was tied up with some irish fella who is crapping himself his jobs could be on the line:

 

The Irish Taoiseach, who faces a general election in February, reminded the EU that securing favourable trading terms with the UK was vital to protect jobs. His remarks come after he spent Wednesday in Brussels, where he met with the new EU commission President Ursula von der Leyen. Mr Varadkar revealed that the two discussed the next phase of Brexit among other topics.

 
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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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2 hours ago, barry luxton said:

cobblers cod, the u k had bilateral trade deals with norway and fisheries agreements before the e u poked it's nose in and following brexit that is exactly what will happen. as will the u k fishing management it will be down to the u k to manage and guess what cod u k fishermen and anglers the charter boat industry, the electorate and you are first in line to benefit.

Your man in brussels meet anyone important did they as the head honcho was tied up with some irish fella who is crapping himself his jobs could be on the line:

 

The Irish Taoiseach, who faces a general election in February, reminded the EU that securing favourable trading terms with the UK was vital to protect jobs. His remarks come after he spent Wednesday in Brussels, where he met with the new EU commission President Ursula von der Leyen. Mr Varadkar revealed that the two discussed the next phase of Brexit among other topics.

 

Still nothing on this miracle after brexit ?

So what happens to all the quota purchased by U.K. fishermen millions  and millions of pounds of it now who pays for that it’s a hornets nest .

You still don’t get it fishing will be traded off egg on your face it’s coming 20-30 thousand  fishermen in the fishing industry compared to billions and billions  running  the through city which is  our biggest earner.

Fishing was used as tool to get the public to vote brexit it was a con trick by the selfservatives.

Brexit financial disaster to Britain.

https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-will-cost-uk-more-than-total-payments-to-eu-2020-1

And those who shout no deal brexit especially in Sunderland who voted strongly for brexit god help them turkeys voting for Christmas YES ? Self harm on an industrial scale .

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/nissan-review-future-sunderland-plant-case-no-deal-brexit

Brexit is the biggest con trick to the man in the street in the history of britain Arron Banks who has a vast amount of cash in offshore accounts he bankrolled brexit ask yourself one very simple question WHY here’s why .

These wealthy Conservative supporters would be aware that in June 2016 the European Council adopted the Directive (EU) 2016/1164 laying down rules against tax avoidance practices within the EU – but they don’t want you to know that.

It is also likely that the big business interests lie behind the lack of media publicity on this issue strange one that how convenient.?

https://www.thenational.scot/news/16066066.letters-is-eu-tax-avoidance-crackdown-the-reason-for-brexit/

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Firstly, EU Directive 2016/1164 DOES NOT legislate in any way suggested in this false story, fake news, bullshit, propaganda or whatever you want to call it claim originally coming from social media and now reported in newspapers with a particular bias or agenda.

Second, PERHAPS MORE IMPORTANTLY, The Directive was implemented in, I think, the 2018 budget and came into force on 1st January 2019.

 

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45 minutes ago, Huge_Vitae said:

Firstly, EU Directive 2016/1164 DOES NOT legislate in any way suggested in this false story, fake news, bullshit, propaganda or whatever you want to call it claim originally coming from social media and now reported in newspapers with a particular bias or agenda.

Second, PERHAPS MORE IMPORTANTLY, The Directive was implemented in, I think, the 2018 budget and came into force on 1st January 2019.

 

Bias now that’s a good one any mention of this legislation in the brexit press nope not a line Whether it was 2016 or 2019 the objective is exactly the same TAX AVOIDANCE billions of it needs stopping that is exactly what brexit is really about the rest is bullshit which very soon the public are going to find out .

So did Arron Banks give all the cash out of the  goodness of his heart not a chance he bankrolled brexit for him and his rich cronies not the people of Britain

£100,000 for a  brexit party no wonder they  are celebrating they have just saved  billions  and some poor bastard who was conned into voting brexit is struggling to pay there bills .

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To use your own words, “You haven’t got a clue what you are talking about.”

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29 minutes ago, Huge_Vitae said:

To use your own words, “You haven’t got a clue what you are talking about.”

Conversation ended.

Are you sure it isn’t you who is clueless

.https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/company-tax/anti-tax-avoidance-package/anti-tax-avoidance-directive_en

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/is-the-anti-tax-avoidance-directive-the-reason-the-rich-want-out-of-eu-1-5669763

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