E U. Should we stay or should we leave.

[Anderoo]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-anger-bregret-leave-voters-protest-vote-thought-uk-stay-in-eu-remain-win-a7102516.html

[Ken L]

Looks like the Independent is really struggling to make copy.

The last person interviewed gave no indication of any regrets, so we are left with two fickle idiots who failed to properly research their decision and properly shoulder the potential costs and benefits before ticking the box.

One thing that this referendum has done is expose a generation that is incapable of dealing with complexity or nuance.

[Andrew]

Farage caught lying again

 

GOTCHA FARAGE

Edited June 26, 2016 by Andrew

[Sportsman]

Just a point on the movement for a second referendum.

before the vote when he thought they would probably lose, Farage stated that if remain won with a small majority, ie 52%-48% (his figures) that would be "unfinished business" and he would demand a second referendum. Now he says that this is not a best out of three.

Another slice of hypocrisy pie anyone?

I also see that Dan Hannah has said that he doesn't believe (and never did) that leaving will result in a drop in the level of immigration. He thinks that to stay in the single market the UK will end up following the Norwegian model and pay just as much as they pay now and accept free movement of people, without having any say or control.

Shame he didn't mention this before the vote.

before anyone starts, I fully accept that the vote has been cast and I certainly would not want a second vote.

Doesn't mean that you can't point out some of the less than honest ways that the result was secured.

[Ken L]

The 2014 referendum on Scottish independence had an 84% turnout and came to an even more resounding decision with 55% in favour of staying in the UK and 45% wanting to split.

The Scotts had the good grace to accept the results of that referendum (Unlike 2.6 million remain voters) but the SNP continue to work to convince the Scottish people that a split is in their interests and will lobby for a second referendum when the time is right.

 

There is no difference between this and what UKIP's position would have been had the Brexit poll gone the other way.

 

It may very well be that Scotland eventually becomes independent and that Ireland unites. Those are not necessarily bad things. Boarders are fluid and reflect the geopolitical needs of the time. Take a look at a series of maps of Europe through the 20th century and boarders move back and fourth, and not only because of war.

[chesters1]

If scotland leaves theres nothing to stop us having trade negotiations, we buy their rasberries and scotch pies they promise not to export scotsmen ,if they put an export tax on pies i will not buy from campbells meat but somewhere south of the border

 

The pies are ok but i prefer cheap crap ones with more pepper but cant source them with paypal and no minimum spend

Its our luxury 24 every couple of months

https://www.campbellsmeat.com/

Edited June 26, 2016 by chesters1

[barry luxton]

Red on Red now, will corbyn last the week I have to ask.

 

Labour's shrinking shadow cabinet

Posted at 16:36

Seven shadow cabinet ministers have resigned today in protest at Jeremy Corbyn's leadership over the EU referendum.

They are (from left to right):

• Shadow Scottish secretary Ian Murray
• Shadow minister for young people Gloria De Piero
• Shadow environment secretary Kerry McCarthy
• Shadow health secretary Heidi Alexander
• Shadow education secretary Lucy Powell
• Shadow transport secretary Lilian Greenwood
• Shadow chief secretary to the Treasury Seema Malhotra

 

The resignations followed the sacking of shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn overnight after he told Mr Corbyn he had lost confidence in his leadership.

[Tigger]

The assumption that remain would win anyway seems to be the reason a lot of people voted leave, as some kind of protest at the establishment. Might explain why no one seems to be celebrating this genuinely momentous event. I would have thought that after unshackling us from the suffocating tyrrany of Brussels after all this time there'd be parties in the street...instead there's just a profound sense of shock and, in some cases, regret.

 

 

 

Andrew, that's nonsense, I don't belive for a moment that someone would vote out if they wanted to stay in the EU, that's just silly propaganda some sad dick-heads are spreading. The way alot of the remain voters are acting is childish and shows they're immature...we voted, brexit won by majority...simples!

[barry luxton]

The assumption that remain would win anyway seems to be the reason a lot of people voted leave, as some kind of protest at the establishment. Might explain why no one seems to be celebrating this genuinely momentous event. I would have thought that after unshackling us from the suffocating tyrrany of Brussels after all this time there'd be parties in the street...instead there's just a profound sense of shock and, in some cases, regret.

I'm absolutely delighted, I even had two vodka and orange with the missus Friday night, happy days are here to come:

 

http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/8414954-end-of-e-u-management/&do=findComment&comment=9436877

[big_cod]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-anger-bregret-leave-voters-protest-vote-thought-uk-stay-in-eu-remain-win-a7102516.html

 

Farage lied on his poster regarding the NHS totally misleading the voters on a very crucial point and a very sensitive point

Edited June 26, 2016 by big_cod