E U. Should we stay or should we leave.

[gozzer]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-anger-bregret-leave-voters-protest-vote-thought-uk-stay-in-eu-remain-win-a7102516.html

 

Farage lied on his poster regarding the NHS totally misleading the voters on a very crucial point and a very sensitive point

 

Paul, anyone who believed this, wants their head examining, it would never happen. The fact that Farage isn't even an MP, never mind a member of the Government, might have been a clue.

 

John

[big_cod]

 

Red on Red now, will corbyn last the week I have to ask.

 

Labour's shrinking shadow cabinet

Posted at 16:36

Seven shadow cabinet ministers have resigned today in protest at Jeremy Corbyn's leadership over the EU referendum.

They are (from left to right):

• Shadow Scottish secretary Ian Murray
• Shadow minister for young people Gloria De Piero
• Shadow environment secretary Kerry McCarthy
• Shadow health secretary Heidi Alexander
• Shadow education secretary Lucy Powell
• Shadow transport secretary Lilian Greenwood
• Shadow chief secretary to the Treasury Seema Malhotra

 

The resignations followed the sacking of shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn overnight after he told Mr Corbyn he had lost confidence in his leadership.

 

Nice one barry so what does the 90% of the vote to stay conservative mps think of boris and gove tap them on the back brillaint well done lads jolly ho get the brandys in funny old world .

[Dales]

Does anyone think that Cameron may have played a last hand by resigning and not activating the formal start of Brexit?

 

He seems to have left the door open for anyone with the nerve or stupidity to ignore the country and maybe keep us in the EU. By delaying he has given Remainers time to complain and campaign. If he had kick started the official process then his replacement would have to continue the process.

 

If Boris or Gove lead the party then they will have to take us out and will find it hard not to tackle migration. He most likely knows that his party may not want either and put up an anyone but Boris candidate and try to block him. If they are a remainer then they may not want to take us out. I can't see who ever leads the party wanting to take us out without an election first. Stop Boris/Gove as leader and you have a slight chance of staying in, they would have to make it a manifesto obligation and follow it up. A different leader may say the election is the final chance to stay in or out and that if they are elected we stay in. They may even want to loose and pass the S""" Sandwich to someone else.

 

Can't see Labour getting elected with Corbyn and looks like his MP's agree but should they win would they go against the referendum? After all it was a Con pledge. Would they stand on an EU IN ticket? Looks like the Libs are.

 

Delay starting the exit process until after a quick election and the game may be reset. All they need to do is stop Boris or Gove leading the Cons and call a quick election before starting Brexit. Common sense says a Brexit boy or girl should lead the party and negotiate the exit. Will they engineer it that a remain contender wins?

 

if Cameron had announced on Friday morning he had already written to Brussels and informed them we where leaving then we are rolling towards exit and it would be hard to stop the momentum. He is responsible for making the S""" Sandwich but it looks like some one else is going to have to eat it.

 

The prime minister who takes us out or even some how keeps us in, is going to be hated by half the population. Cameron has managed to wiggle his way out and leave the Brexit Boys with one hell of a nasty job to do and or given a slim life line to remain for those who are willing to go against the will of the people. As we know politicians would never go back on a pledge or try to wiggle out of anything.

 

Dave may have bought remain time.

[chesters1]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-anger-bregret-leave-voters-protest-vote-thought-uk-stay-in-eu-remain-win-a7102516.html

 

Farage lied on his poster regarding the NHS totally misleading the voters on a very crucial point and a very sensitive point

Show me an mp that didnt lie on either side ,anyone believing anyone with the slightest bit of power needs their heads read MP = Mass Prevaricator Edited June 26, 2016 by chesters1

[gozzer]

I don't see why it should be a 'Brexit' Government Stephen, if a minister can't follow the views of the electorate, (those who employ them), then they should be kicked out.

Cameron has resigned in the same way he ran the Tory party and the country, dishonestly. He said he would not quit, he quit, he said we Brits aren't quitters, he then quit, maybe with an ulterior motive.

 

Anyone Government that decides to not follow the electorate had better make sure they have made provision to counter riots in the streets, and would also have killed off the last dregs of trust that we might have in any UK Government.

 

I just heard that the ridiculous petition to have a 2nd referendum had reached 3,000,000, it was also said that a large percentage of those signatures are from people not eligible to vote here anyway, including several thousand from the Vatican City, which has a population in the hundreds.

 

John.

[Rusty]

I don't see why it should be a 'Brexit' Government Stephen, if a minister can't follow the views of the electorate, (those who employ them), then they should be kicked out.

I'd like to agree with that but I can't. If you don't believe in a cause you can't lead towards it, at some point your conscience will be compromised (if MPs have a conscience). I see the Labour resignations as a good thing, get rid of the dead wood and get people in who believe in what needs to happen....a coalition right now might be a good idea.

[Dales]

I don't see why it should be a 'Brexit' Government Stephen, if a minister can't follow the views of the electorate, (those who employ them), then they should be kicked out.

Cameron has resigned in the same way he ran the Tory party and the country, dishonestly. He said he would not quit, he quit, he said we Brits aren't quitters, he then quit, maybe with an ulterior motive.

 

Anyone Government that decides to not follow the electorate had better make sure they have made provision to counter riots in the streets, and would also have killed off the last dregs of trust that we might have in any UK Government.

 

 

John.

I agree about Cameron but feel if he had stayed and not resigned then Brexit could and should have been finished under the current government. By setting up a situation with a likely election he has allowed how ever slim a chance for some one else to stop Brexit.

 

I expect and hope that a government would except the will of the people but already a labour MP has said they should ignore the referendum and the Libs have said they would campaign at the next election to keep us in. We know both sides told a tonne of lies in the lead up to voting and as the new politics seems to be say one thing and do another I have little faith in them doing the right thing. Most of the House of Commons came out for remain if they can find an idiot to ignore the public they may just try something.

 

I doubt they care about riots in the streets, it's never riots in their streets. Just like there is never waiting lists for them to see a doctor or get a place on a housing list. The thing with a lot of remain voters is that they do not experience the issues that a lot of Brexit supporters do or even see it.

 

Some how all the supporters of remain could not see the Brexit result coming, how could they not? The truth is they don't see or care about most of those people. They don't really matter to them and if they can get out of delivering Brexit somehow I think they may take it. Why would they care to deliver to the stupid masses who never knew what they voted for or those so old they would have forgot how they voted by next week. The contempt for Brexit voters by remain MPs and supporters is amazing and so I have little faith in a government not led by one of the Conservative Brexit team leading it. At the end of the day it will need to be agreed by a House of Commons full of MPs who never wanted it.

[Sportsman]

Dave may well have had an exit strategy in case the vote went against him. The new PM's career is screwed with half the population whatever they do. If they they push the button then they will be reviled by 48% of the population. If they don't then they will be reviled by 52% of the population. Either way their career will be effectively over. A bit like revenge from beyond the grave.

[Ken L]

[big_cod]

We are still in free fall the £ in a 31 year low in Asia and now Scotland trying the veto the brexit result .

 

It's very obvious the brexit camp have no clear direction and to be honest I don't think they expected to win the media played its part as usual the sun was out and brainwashed many voters and now the markets are all over the place sturgeon is going to cause uproar by the look of things our status on the borrowing markets have been downgraded again all pluses or not for a brexit result .

Edited June 27, 2016 by big_cod